Condor Top Hat setting tips
After reading some on this forum and using it to set up the top hat of my Condor, I thought I would give some tips and feed back.
1. I started by setting the Top Hat at .070 and it took me only about half a turn out before I could see and increase in pellet velocity.
2. Each quarter turn of the top hat will change it’s setting by .008 so on my Condor, the optimum setting seems to be beween .084 and .088 and it seems consistent with what others have reported.
3. To prevent crushing the inner tube of the valve, make sure you put the round end of a drill bit in it before you tighten the two set screws.
On the Condor, a #3 drill bit seems to be the tightest fit and works great.
Tip: put some oil on it before inserting it so it will be easier to insert and remove.
4. The two set screws need some tread lock if you don’t want them to get loose!
That’s it!
Thanks for the original poster on the “how to”
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Hey globule you have good luck with the crossman s ,man they really shoot in my condor ,around 850 they are literally one hole.5 shot.25 yard.
I aimed at another spot because the hole did not get bigger.you know when you get a all touching group but rarely do they do this.
Just got most of my pellet order.the beeman are not in yet.jsut shot a quick 5 shot of each at 800’s , the 18 grain and up are 700’s fps.at this setting.
Most every thing shoots good .except the Gamo TS-22 ,WOW! they are everywhere. don’t think there going to get better with higher velocity.
As many of you already know, the drill bit idea is not mine and I should have mentioned it.
I posted it as a reminder and wanted to give the best drill bit size to use.
There was no intent to hijack the idea.
Many thanks to the original poster.
I’ve never heard that before. It is has been proven safe on o rings, about the only thing to worry about on our guns.
Once Again a BIG THANK YOU to WOK on the Drill bit thing’y. Would have been nice if it had been posted BEFORE Mine looked like a 14 year old school boy with a face full of zits! 👿 😉
😆 Of course if I had used an ounce of common sense————- 😳
Mike
I don’t think you have anything to worry about with a bit of oil on the drill bit. And you sure don’t have to worry about using regular light oil to lube your pellets. The worst detonation type event I’ve ever seen with oil in a pcp barrel was when I cleaned my bore with a very wet oily patch. The next couple shots left a bit of smoke curling out of the breech when I opened the bolt. That was a .32 running at about 250 FPE and after a couple shots it was back to normal.
I don’t think I would use FP-10 anywhere on my guns though. It is probably a great lubricant but it has a very powerful solvent as part of the mix and I’d be concerned that the solvent might cause damage that could be avoided.
Yeah, that little idea is a winner!
Yes yes yes please I have been thanked enough 😆
Your Welcome
Yeah, that little idea is a winner!
What Mike said, use a Q-tip and clean it out. You want to make sure you’re using the right kind (Non-flammable) of lube on your pellets too if lubed pellets is your thing.
A touch of FP-10 would probably be alright. Just q-tip it our after removing the drill bit.
Mike
The oil you use for your pellets should be fine (some of it ends up in the valve anyway).
Silicon grease would be better though…
Yeah, skip the bit about the oil in the valve! 😯
Maybe a bit of silicone grease instead 😀
Hmmmm. Oil inside the valve area, I’m thinkin you might want to avoid that.
I wish I would remember the drill bit thing, cause I hate the little bumps in my stem.
I just started to shoot this gun and have not yet received all the pellets I ordered.
So far, I shot JSB Exact Jumbo and Crossman Premier.
Both shoot real nice and consistant with CO2 up to 30 yards.
With the HPA tank, they go a little fast but are still quite accurate.
I have an interesting 130 rounds shooting string with the JSB and HPA tank which shows the bell curve quite nicely: 800 up to 1090 down to 800 ft./s with the power wheel at minimum power.
Crunching the numbers shows that I should get optimum speeds with pellets between 18 and 22 grains.
I will post something about it in a few days which should help everyone optimize their power wheel setting with their top hat power curve and scope zeroing.
What pellets and velocity are you shooting, heavy huh?
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I have not shot the crossman’s much and I still have to put an overtravel screw on my Condor (already drilled and tapped but could not find the right screw).
With CO2, I found them quite accurate though.