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Conversion

Can anyone please help me? Here is what I am trying to do. Has anyone dealt with any of the Airsoft 6mm sniper rifles. Some of them are Really nice. My question is that I would like to convert one of these into a more powerful pellet rifle. I really like the way that they use a conventional bolt action with actual magazines. Some of these mags hold 30 6mm BB’s. The 6mm BB’s that they shoot are 24mm. So, I guess what I would really want is a bolt action with sniper stock, with the ability to shoot a .22, or .24 cal pellet out of it. If it was setup to shoot the .24 then you could shoot pellets in addition to shooting the 6mm BB’s which come in bulk and would make for good practice shooting. The airsoft’s are nice, just that the velocity isn’t there. What do you think we could come up with? I know that there are some brilliant machinists on this forum..

Thanks,
Christopher
aquaman03@hotmail.com

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I do a ton of spearfishing. Been doing that for years. Basically, like many of us, I have too many hobbies. Currently in the process of building 2 spearguns, one for reef spearfishing and one for large blue water fish. Anyway, here in Japan, the current yen rate is about 89 to the dollar. So,, stuff is pretty expensive in the economy right now. I was here back in 92′ and the yen rate was about 127. The current economy sucks for Americans right now, great if you are Japanese and needing to buy US Dollars though. Back to the airgun stuff though, I will probably just buy the first “shadow ops” rifle for $138 and just leave it at that. Other modifications could easily push this one into the $800 range quickly. I think I can get a lot more real rifle stuff when I return to the states. If I had access to my own machine shop I might consider making specific parts for this to beef it up. Like I said, It can be made be to push approx 700fps, but with great expense. Not really sure if the cost to benefit ratio works out in my favor though.

Aquaman02 wrote:

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…I have to take up some other hobby. This is as constructive as I can find here.

Well, you could take up octopus fishing…or there is always R/C Helicopters, boats, cars and planes! When I was in Yokosuka back in 89′ the conversion rate was 142 yen to the dollar…bought some really cool R/C stuff there.

Fishing in general is always a good hobby!

Good luck!

The point of the whole Airsoft thing is being able to actually take it out and have real scenarios and military training exercises, shooting at each other, like paintball. You Definitely can not do that with a 1000fps pellet gun. (I guess you could but …) It is nice however, to have enough fps so that the person on the other end knows that they have been hit, but not have any serious injuries. (I guarantee that those little BB’s still sting.) Now, when I get back to the states and actually have the need for a pest control device, then I will opt to finally trick out my Talon SS at home. Try to put yourself in my position whereas you are shipped off to a place that you have your air rifles stripped from you and know that you aren’t going to be able to use them again for 4 years. I have to take up some other hobby. This is as constructive as I can find here.

quote aquaman02:

I think that is where I was making my mistake. I was comparing .22 cal to the .25 gm.

Weights are totally off. The pellet is Much more. So, If I was able to fire a .24 cal pellet in the airsoft shooting 6mm (.24) 650fps with .25gm BB’s, what would that translate to for the pellet?

A lead 6mm ball weighs about 20 grains / 1.29 grams

In a 2 fpe rifle…. thats about 210 fps

in a 4 fpe rifle its 300 fps.

A small air pistol gets more power (and costs less).

quote Mr-lama:

I just looked up that cheytac airsoft gun. Guess how much it costs, just guess.

$1100. Wow. You REEEEEEEEEALY have to be into airsoft to spend that much on that. Go get a real gun people. πŸ˜›

You know, I just don’t really get this whole Airsoft thing…

At least to me, it seems the equivalent as using a condom when you’re having sex with an inflatable doll……………..

konichiwa, can you not have a c02 gun in japan either?

I think that is where I was making my mistake. I was comparing .22 cal to the .25 gm.

Weights are totally off. The pellet is Much more. So, If I was able to fire a .24 cal pellet in the airsoft shooting 6mm (.24) 650fps with .25gm BB’s, what would that translate to for the pellet?

I just looked up that cheytac airsoft gun. Guess how much it costs, just guess.

$1100. Wow. You REEEEEEEEEALY have to be into airsoft to spend that much on that. Go get a real gun people. πŸ˜›

Marky Mark should’ve bought the left handed version, then he’d have a better cheek rest.

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I am up for re-manufacturing the vital parts so that it would work. What all would have to be changed. Is it just that everything would have to be beefed up, or what?

The following ought to give you some idea as to what would be involved in your project:

BF-17 National Match Air Rifle upper action made by Pilkguns. –
http://www.pilkguns.com/menu_ar15.shtml

The BF-17 upper uses actual AR-15 components like an A2 upper, front sight mount, charging handle and handguards. It also has National Match ΒΌ minute rear sights matched to a top quality .177 Lothar Walther barrel.

Have you seen the RAP4 BB/Pellet airgun?
http://www.rap4.com/paintball/os/rap4-bbpellet-airgun-c-323.html

quote aquaman02:

the Type 96 sniper rifle, comes stock at about 450fps, however, with several internal upgrades can be pushed into the arena of 650-700fps for a Bolt Action, Magazine fed, 6mm projectile rifle. You can’t tell me that that is shabby.

Even assuming that’s with a .25 gram BB which is only 3.85 grain its only shooting at 4.19 fpe.

If your talking about .12 gram its only 2 fpe

So yes – I can tell you that is rather shabby…..

It is illegal to have or ship in a pcp here to japan. So, I am stuck with Airsoft for now.[u]

I also really like the fact that they are a bolt action and it has the magazine feed with 30 capacity. Granted, the mag makes no difference if I am able to convert it somehow to shoot an oblong pellet as opposed to the round BB’s.

wouldn’t it be cheaper and easier to just buy a multishot pcp or something? I don’t understand why it has to be converted.

This is true, I am in Japan. The airsoft community is pretty large here., however, I am returning to the States soon and would like to continue my interest in the air rifle arena. After doing a little research, I have found that the first rifle that I posted , the Type 96 sniper rifle, comes stock at about 450fps, however, with several internal upgrades can be pushed into the arena of 650-700fps for a Bolt Action, Magazine fed, 6mm projectile rifle. You can’t tell me that that is shabby. My only interest here would to be able to convert it to shoot real projectile type pellets instead of the round plastic BBs. I have found some aluminum BB’s that would offer more reliability and consistency, but having a more aerodynamic projectile would increase everything greatly. They used to make an older projectile called the Blade Bullet that would work well I think but they are almost impossible to find. My interest is in all types of rifles, especially the powered air type, but, however, as stated before, an impossibility for me right now due to restrictions, so I have to put my interest into what is available. As I said earlier though, these Type 96 spring sniper rifles do offer some promise, but putting some proper thought into them could make them unbelievable don’t you think?

If your capable of preforming the actual design changes… then you should be capable of figuring out what needed to be changed…

07 – He cant even get a pelletgun because he’s in Japan.

Have you got $1000+ to put in that venture 😯 😯

Just buy a real rifle πŸ˜•

Sam

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