Cricket Video Regulator Disassembly, removal, and adjustment
For those AG’ers that like to fine tune the regulator for better shot to shot consistency at a given speed.
To adjust to higher regulated pressure you need to turn the black adjustment (seat) screw CCW so it will be further away from the regulator pistons,
so it will require more regulated air to shut the valve.
Ernest Rowe
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Syn, I may not have done my homework properly I guess…….. 😳
But to make things absolutely crystal clear:
As the Cricket comes with different color displays, – what is the pressure at the start of the yellow zone and what is the pressure at the end of it ? On mine it starts at 200 bars and ends at 300 bars as shown in this image:
I know I have seen colorfaced gauges with a different color coding, – and hence my question……… 😉
We need to know what we’re comparing………
Thanks
Trygve 😀
Really?!
Guess my EdGun didn’t get the memo… 😯
From 200bar to 80bar I get 150 shots with the last 50 shots rising in velocity (as much as 30fps) and then dropping again to 890 at shot 150. This means I need to turn DOWN my regulator and by doing so I would get even more usable shots in my string. I don’t think I would have any issue getting 180 shots (890fps with 10.34 grain 177 pellets) once the reg has been adjusted. At this point my limiting shot count factor is running the tube pressure too low for the hammer spring (even though being a 177 may give me some wiggle room), the air is there to push out even more shots after #150.
My Cricket gets 90 usable shots from the edge of the yellow to the edge of the blue on the gauge before the velocity starts dropping like a rock.
Both rifles are stock (only adjustments after delivery were to tune the hammer springs to get the velocity down to 890 fps).
Are you comparing .177 to a .22???? not fare, just wandering if you have set your .177 to 695fps using jsb 7.3g I bet you can get 1000 shots in a fill, I get only 430 regulate shots. its fun just plinking in the backyard with a 7fpe, just like shooting a 1377 without pumping 4,300 times.
Ernest
Really?!
Guess my EdGun didn’t get the memo… 😯
From 200bar to 80bar I get 150 shots with the last 50 shots rising in velocity (as much as 30fps) and then dropping again to 890 at shot 150. This means I need to turn DOWN my regulator and by doing so I would get even more usable shots in my string. I don’t think I would have any issue getting 180 shots (890fps with 10.34 grain 177 pellets) once the reg has been adjusted. At this point my limiting shot count factor is running the tube pressure too low for the hammer spring (even though being a 177 may give me some wiggle room), the air is there to push out even more shots after #150.
My Cricket gets 90 usable shots from the edge of the yellow to the edge of the blue on the gauge before the velocity starts dropping like a rock.
Both rifles are stock (only adjustments after delivery were to tune the hammer springs to get the velocity down to 890 fps).
I tried that but the sound quality was bad, not capturing the actual sound difference between two 2 shroud, may have to try another camera with better microphone.
Ernest
Ernest how about some video of the NC’s shroud vs the stock.
No, cant put A NC CF shroud on the R3M. the shroud act like a big nut that keep the barrel torque down to the breech, CF is stronger but not for that application.
Here is a photo of my R3 with a FX 6″ shroud extension bounded on the MOD shroud, I remove the end cap put a 1/2″ 20 adapter when I don’t want to offend anyone.
Ernest
Black beauty! So basically you had to replace the whole OEM shroud. I am guessing this is how he will have to do the R3M as well.
Ernest
Donny here another NC shroud;
Ernest
Ernest
Donny here another NC shroud;
Ernest
I was just curious of how far did you go.
I like your vid, it must have been a lot of work to make it!
Inputs like yours made me register on Talon.
Regards, Robert.
is not to hard, I work at home so I have time to goof off make video and shoots some pests. the 1st video was kinds hard, not use to talking out loud while doing my thing. next video will use a Nikon 105mm macro lenses so you can see really up close–of my Hands–Not—->parts
Ernest
Hi Ernest,
I was just curious of how far did you go.
I like your vid, it must have been a lot of work to make it!
Inputs like yours made me register on Talon.
Regards, Robert.
Ernest
Yes its NC, the 7″ long 2″ OD CF LDC didn’t show. some how TAG resize all my photos. I love his shroud so I got 4 of them. his sending me a Huggett style shroud for my compact to test can’t wait.
WOW just found out you just have to click on the photos to view actual size, didn’t have that option before 😛
Ernest
Robert, when I was in the US navy as a submariner we need that info to write a bible just to repair a valve. in an AG world you don’t need that just real word testing on what you have in hand.
Ernest
That is a sweet looking shroud Ernest! Is this one also done by NC? Edit*** Just read the full post and saw NC.. Oh Mondays lol
Ernest
Hi Ernest,
The R3 has 12 washers of 125 kg.
0,63 Cm2 is the actual presure surface. (the big side minus the small side)
Set on a working pressure of 125 bar the reg operates at 63% of it’s capability, 110 bar 55%.
Do you have an idea at what capability the reg in the crick operates?
Regards, Robert.
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Come on now…
I’m comparing a Cricket Standard w/18″ barrel in 177 to an EdGun Standard w/18″ barrel in 177….
Cricket= 90 shots (10.34 grain @ 890fps).
EdGun=150+ shots (10.34 grain @ 890fps).
I fill and shoot. No messing with anything except to get the velocities both at 890fps.
Zoco, my tank was full at 4500psi when I filled my Cricket, it went up to the what looks to be 250bar on your gauge plus one mark. My color gauge is different than that one, my yellow section is the same size at the red section (that yellow is twice as big as mine).
Somehow I don’t think 50bar is going to get me 100 more shots… 😀