Edgun: Another erratic string shots
My .25 edgun long start shooting erratic like this earlier post http://www.talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=26526. My reg were adjusted from stock 12′ to 7″ish CW and was shooitng a stady 910-920fps. It was shooting great for 4-5 fills until I notice it sound a little different and my POI start low, then right on then off. At first I though it was the winds causing it. Here is the chrony result below.
200b 760 766 774 786 790 804 812 816 820 820
184b 824 830 835 851 854 855 865 875 865 878
172b 880 886 888 893 891 896 898 904 904 916
160b 911 918 924 939 942 936 938 947 952 956
150b 950 958 956 958 953 951 951 950 956 952
138b 954 945 953 945 950 942 949 951 951 946
125b 395 947 931 936 933 929 920 907 900 890
110b 881 867 864 856 844 831 102b
refill to 200
200b 800 818 809 811
HST 1/2 in 847 846 849 854 851
HST 1t in 906 910 929
185b 920 920 931 932 931 950 954 960 962 971
170b 980 981 990 991 995 1003 1008 1004 1011 1004 1008
I think my reg is dead.
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Fill up to 200bar
Adjust the hst 15 fps under the max speed.
Fill up again to 200 bar.
Do a full string without adjusting hst.
Fil in the numbers in a graph.
If you took it apart, you did not took any photos?
Regards robert
Well today, I decided to give it another try. There’s nothing else to loose except for 3-4 week wait for a new reg. So, I give the reg another 1/4 turn and now it’s 1 1/4 from stock. Fill it up to 120b and see what happen.
120b 780 769 775 779 782 785 790 792 783 778 785 794 797 800 792 786 796 740 744 743 731 730 end 87b
SOmewhere in the string above I adjust the HST 2-3 time just to see if it goes higher, and it seems that the reg is working or lock-in a certain setting.
Since it seems to work, I adjust the reg once again, this time to 11′, so from stock I am almost 1 whole turn in. Fill it up to 140b.
140b 742 745 748 744 749
130b 1t in 858 853 857 859 856 854 858 852 859 854……..hmmm look like it working again 🙂
115b 1.5t in 856 857 859 858 860 859 860 858 861 858……..lock-in at 860 max?
100b 2.0t in 863 860 859 856 854 856 (93b) 845 843 842 834.
Adjust reg 1 more time to 9′, whichis 3/4 from stock in and fill to 170b
170b 870 872 871 871 871
1/4t in 881 880 875 878 883
1/2t in 892 893 889 890 885
3/4t in 887 888 900 902 896
1t in 896 908 892 893 891 892
Hey llok what we got here… could this be it, it is fixed or reg once working as it should be again?
HST back out 1/2t and refill to 200b and see what this baby can do 🙂
Just to lift my hope and shatter it once again 🙁 ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
200b 694 695 691 693 695 700 705 702 703 717 724 716 715 718 719 722 729 725 724 737 729 740 739 739 738
180b 1t in 849 842 848 843
1.5t in 911 905 912 899 903
908 917 916 920 922
917 924 920 923 928
160b 2t in 940 939 945 949 955
955 958 964 961 967
145b 969 962 974 975 975
980 978 983 981 984
130b 978 976 964 975 976
972 970 968 971 966
120b 955 949 940 927 909
900 890 879 859 844 end 105b
What just happen? I though it all good, reg lock-in and the above string is shitty. It seem the last 3 fills it’s good and reg lock-in and the last one it didn’t. This is the exact pattern when my string starts to have erratic shots in the beginning.
I’ll be wating “patiently” for a new reg from Tony, estimate time 3-4 weeks. have a good night everyone 😥
I think he already did all that. Look at few posts above,
I think this is to soon to say.
Take it apart and post some photos.
There are several things that can be wrong.
Clean it, change all the o-rings (also the ring from the adjusterscrew), grease it and try again.
Good luck!
Regards robert.
I quess it´s time for a new reg … 😥
Today I tried Ted suggestion, by turning the reg down a little more. Stock was at 12′, last setting was at 8′ and now 12′. Pretty much it’s 1 whole turn from stock setting.
Fill to 210 and let it sit for awhile and end up with 200b and HST back out 2t.
200b 691err 694 692 695 694 700 950 700 703 702 705 705 725 713 716 713 718 715 720 734 722 725 718 722 739 727 729 731 733 738
180b 1t in 841 849 848 843
1.5t in 896 902 904 913 911 909 918 916 913 912 923 922 920 926
160b 2t in 935 945 943 947 953 952 956 961 960 965
145b 975 959 971 973 973 973 979 976974 971 978
130b 964 975 978 977 976 976 965 964 971 964
118b 955 934 932 905 892 888 879 870 859 852 end 108b
Reg is 1 whole turn from stock. ahhhhh 🙁
I would try turning the reg down a little more and see if that helps. Your max fps is too high and I would like to see a string after you turn the reg down some.
Well this morning, woke up early to get this string shots. I really think my reg is dead. If anyone else can help confirm, that will be helpful as well.
Hst is set at 3t out after reg tear down.
-3t 185b 666 677 680 682 687
-2t 180b 797 812 809 807 813
-1.5t 178b 860 872 873 877 890 895 895 898 900 905
-1t 168b 972 963 979 982 981 986 991 999 1006 1005 993 1003 1007 1004
145b 998 1003 998 1003 1000 1002 1009 1001 997
132b 997 988 987 9881 982 988 964 954 931 915
120b 911 900 891 885 879
112b 867 856 849 841 832 end 107b
I guess it’s time to send Tony an email.
Naser – Nice catch on the reg to be set to 115b to achoieve around 900fps…… if it’s working after the tear down. reg is now set to 8′
So today in the evening I have some time to work on my problem. Everything look nice and flushes for the regulator, except for the locking screw that lock the regulator adjustment. It’s about 1/4 t looses. I disassembled the regulator and cleanit up, all external and internal orings are still in great shape. I use Hoppes gun clean (non-flameable), cannot fin Ballistol @ ProBass.
Assemble the reg, lubed and back into the tube it goes. Fill it up to 140b and use the degasser to 50b, then up to another 140b and degassed to 50b. And finally assembled the whole gun and gill it up tp 200b. Hopefully tomorrow, I will get home from work with daylight left to do some chrony. I’ll take the HST 4t back and work in slowly, just in case it needed to be back out 2t more.
200b 944 947 948 952 946 936 949 943 950 958
180b 948 945 941 952 959 955 967 975 975
168b 989 983 985 985 991 993 1010 1005 1005 1009
150b 1014 1004 1015 1010 1016 1013 1007 1009 1005
135b er er 992 991 997 989 991 967 960 946
120b 933 933 912 898 889 881 872 864 852 847 end 110b
Thats a non working regulator. Thats why your speed start slow cause of the high pressure behind the valve closed than as the pressure drops you get higher speeds & keep going down from there.
This also shows that if you need to shoot at around 880-900fps than set the regulator at a pressure of between 115Bar.
The small nylon part that the adjuster seals against was loose in the regulator on my R3.
I think it was glued in place. I remade this part with a press fit and solved my problem.
What is ?? ❓
Is already known to cause malfunctioning of regulator?
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I think I did more than enough trouble shooting with the reg and trying this and that. Let’s say if I try again and work, I will not be at ease. This reg had failed on 2x , when will the 3rd time be? next refill? week? month? or after 1yr warranty ran out? It’s a 2k gun, I am not taking my chance on it (the current reg).