EDgun Matador R3, caliber .30, single shot
Here is some information about new EDgun Matador, caliber .30.
1. Length — it became longer for about 50 mm. due to a new moderator (the same thing will be with the long one)
2. Weight — it became a little heavier due to the diameter of the barrel 14 mm instead of 12 as it was before, but not critically.
3. Moderator — new design, eccentric, diameter 38 mm, no thread on the case, just two O-rings.
4. Sound — VERY, VERY comfortable sound, to my opinion sounds quitter then .22, I can hear only the hammer.
5. Pellet — JSB .30 pellet, weight 2.90 grams (44 grain).
6. Speed of the pellet — with the standard regulator (set at 160 bar) — 270 m/sec (886 f/sec).
7. The energy for standard is 105 Joles (77.4 Ft-Lbf) .
8. Accuracy — about 20 mm (0.75 inch) at 50 meters (55 yards). Below you can see the shots to the bear can at 75 and 100 meters.
9. Barrel — made by Lothar Walther, especially for JSB .30, weight 2.9 grams (44 grain) according to my specification, choked, but very lightly.
10. Shot count for standard — 25 shots from 220 to 140 bar.
11. Volume of the reservoir — 270 cm3 (the after regulator space is bigger then at .22 and .25).
12. Length of the barrel for standard — 477 mm.
On October of 10th I went for hunting in the morning. EDgun Matador R3, standard, caliber .30, 44 grain JSB pellet, speed of the pellet 270 m/sec, one shot, distance about 50 meters. This bird:
Very tasty, by the way.
Here is the place where the pellet got in:
Here is the place where pellet went out:
No chances to survive for the bird such a size (about 6 kg.) A lot of blood on the ground. I am impressed…
At the same day I had 15 free minutes, bad mood and was in need to relax. Went for the nearest wood, took EDgun Matador R3, standard, .30 caliber. It was zeroed at 50 meters, the one I use this morning for hunting. I used Ballistic Calculator “Strelok”, made by Russian guy. I put a beer can at 75 meters and even didn’t tried to use paper to “zero” POI at this distance, just took out my IPhone, opened Strelok, changed to EDgun Matador .30, found that at 77 meters it will be second mildot from the cross and made 10 shots. Here is the result:
Then I made a picture of the can, put it vertical, moved back at 100 meters and shot another 5 shots. Here is the result:
There was a light wind from the right to left, about 2-3 m/sec, I didn’t made any calculations to the wind. Strelok told me that 100 meters will be half a mil down from the fourth mil dot at my scope. I put a fourth mildot to the top of the can and got all 5 shots down to the can.
I didn’t use any rests, tables or anything like that. I was sitting in my car, shot from the driver’s window. To my opinion not bad for such a position. The ballistic of the 44 grain JSB .30 pellets is equal to their other pellets so I don’t need to get used to new corrections by the mildot reticle.
I think I would change my Matador for hunting from .25 to .30 🙂
On October of 11th, just at 7:30 I got out home, took a car and went to woods. In 8:15 or something like that I saw a black grouse on the right side of the road. He saw me also, I stopped the car and watched him, taking R3 .30 ready to shoot, but as it was on the other side of the car I couldn’t shoot. The bird slowly moved to the bushes and directed to the thicket. I opened the door of the car, got out and moved back along the road taking the car between me and the bird. When I was about 50 meters out of the car, I took the right side of the road and moved to the place where I expected to find the bird, slowly. I reached the car, which was on the left on me and in few steps saw the silhouette in bushes, took the gun ready, but couldn’t see it in the scope through the branches. I was waiting about a minute or so, then the bird moved, I saw it in the scope through a lot of branched on bushes and shot. It moved quickly then fluttered for few second and that’s it. I loaded another pellet to the gun and moved closer to it. I found him dead.
I like this caliber as I doubt I could reach him with .22 through bushes. The pellet got in the very back side of him, penetrated through all his body and stuck somewhere near the neck. I was home at 9:30 after gutting it in the garage.
Today, on October 13th I decided to calculate how many shots will I have in standard Matador R3 in .30.
Here is the result.
Not bad, I think, 25 shots with average speed of 2.9 gram (44 grain) pellet at 270 m/sec (886 f/sec), from 220 bar to 140 bar. The average air consumption is 7.3 cm3 per one Jole of energy.
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first guy to sell his .30 edgun PM me! I am a 52 year old child that cannot wait and will pay a premium to get one NOW! lol
I had a shot at a used Bauer for $2100 that was just refurbished. I was heading out of town and really didn’t have time to check the deal out or the price. It appeared in great shape. What did you pay?
Hey John…. Thanks for the kind words.. 😉
As far as the Bauer goes.. if you have the extra budget… DO IT !!!!!!!
I got chance to meet Joe B. at the Extreme BR in Green Valley.. Great Guy!
After three years of airguning I figured out my greatest Problem… AIR!!! I tried several other air pressure sources. The biggest problem for me is I always seem to run out of HPA at the Wrong Time!!! For me to go to the local “Sports Chalet” it was a 2 hour investment…. that was killing me. ….I tried the Shoe Box.. EXCELLENT Product.. I don’t have time to baby sit and Lube… also have a “Rocket Booster” again.. Excellent Product..
THE BAUER!!!! WORTH EVERY PENNY !!!!! Over the Summer I picked one up from August Industries the Owner is Porter Stiles.. EXCELLENT SERVICE and Support… I got the Oceanus at a very good Price.. I knew once I had it I would be supporting my Local Aigunners.. Its an ABSOLUTE Pleasure to be able to fill a tank to a TRUE 4500 psi in 10 to 15 minutes!!! The compressor got a pretty good work out the week before the Extreme BR match…..We all have busy schedules.. Its great just to be able to “Plug It In” and fill tanks at will…Especially Friday night before the Monthly Aigun match…
I can’t say enough good things about my experience….. The Only difference between the Oceanus and the JR II E is the fill rate and the motor size. The JRIIE only draws about 20 amps.. and the fill rate is about 1/3 less .. But all the reviews I read IT IS AMAZING!!!
… DO IT!!!!
Mark
Endless AIR supply ….. CHECK
Lots of PELLETS…. CHECK
EDGUN Family ready to receive NEW MEMBER …… CHECK…CHECK…CHECK….
Ready to come to Arizona where it is Warm…… 😀
Mark
Hi Mark,
You made me full of envy!!!!, what is that blue thingy you have in the back ground? Bauer? Did you said endless air supplies? Well, you are so much ahead of me. I hated when someone got ahead of me (in a good way). Lol.
I just talked to Joe B today because I had some interest in the Bauer Jr 2. Can you give me some feed back on the Bauer?
Thanks so much!!!
John
READY… I have been getting ready ALL SUMMER!!!!!!
Endless AIR supply ….. CHECK
Lots of PELLETS…. CHECK
EDGUN Family ready to receive NEW MEMBER …… CHECK…CHECK…CHECK….
Ready to come to Arizona where it is Warm…… 😀
Mark
Got the same here. Finally! 😆
Yup… Got the same email….
READY… READY… READY…
Ship… Ship.. Ship… 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
Mark
Hello,
I am getting ready to ship you Edgun please let me know if you’d be unable to receive it.
Tony
I got THE email from Tony today. My .30 cal standard is
being ready to ship. Are there anyone else ????
John
EDIT: Ed beat my post by a few minutes, but I’ll leave it on for info purposes for new guys…
My dear Your Goat-Ship….
A .25 Edgun long will give approximately 50+ shots. The .30 Edgun is said to render at least 25 shots. This would seem to point to the possibility that the same air cylinder is used for both guns. The regulator will release more pressure per shot to propel the 50-60+gr pellets at the speeds Ed indicted. If Ed used the same Long Edgun air cylinder, he would save time and money in production, but would get about 1/2 the shot count, because the pellets are roughly twice as heavy as the 25-30gr in caliber .25. My guess is they are one and the same cylinder!
Now, how about that valve? Is it a “beefed up” .25 valve, or a new design. Again, modification of the existing to heavier springs, larger apertures, etc, would seem to indicate it’s the same valve, just set higher and with a few heavier replacement parts. It would be nice to put such a heavy duty valve in our .25 Longs.
Since we just don’t hear about anyone blowing themselves up by over-pressurizing their air guns, logic follows that a good quality pcp air cylinder can be pressurized far beyond the recommended fill pressure. Scuba tanks are hydro=tested at 5/3rds their recommended fill pressure. Again, logic indicates pcp air tubes are proofed beyond any anticipated accidental overfills by the users.
I wouldn’t want to fill an Edgun to 300 bar, but I would not hesitate to fill mine to 240 bar (3480 psi or so)…and I have on several occasions. (Don’t do this yourselves…I have a death wish, perhaps you don’t.)
My observation was that not much was gained in shot count…but I did use more air. So the balance between psi/bar fill, volume released by the valve, and pressure against the regulator on the unregulated side have a “balance” factor involved. If you change any of the three factors there will be a change in results. Adding higher air pressure seems to cost more than it’s worth due to loss of “efficiency” of air used per shot.
While you may obtain a few more shots with a 240 bar fill, you will end up using more air in the long run, per shot string, than simply staying within the recommended fill limit. Nonetheless, I always fill a couple hundred psi over 3000 psi to accommodate for temperature changes. If I fill my gun to 3200 psi and take it outside in 10 degree F weather, my pressure gauge will reflect a loss of pressure of about 100 to 150 psi, because cold air condenses, takes up less room in the air cylinder, thus reducing the indicated psi. The opposite takes place in hot weather. Temperature extremes, 0.0F to 120+F will generally add or subtract about 200 psi to your last fill…your results may vary a few degrees one way or the other.
This has been my experience in the past. Take it for what it’s worth to you.
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Do you like the 30 cal better than the 25 cal for hunting?
All my tubes can be filled up to 300 bar but it is not worthwhile since the workin effetiency at such a high pressure is not good. Yes, I prefer .30 to .25 now for hunting.
Ed
Hello Ed. I see that the 30 cal R3s can be filled to 240 bar. Have you increased the strength of the air tube for the 30 cals or, can I fill my 1 year old 25 cal R3 long to 240 bar also?
Do you like the 30 cal better than the 25 cal for hunting?
Seems the .30 caliber is growing on you Ed 😀
Can’t wait to start putting mine through it’s paces.
Very interesting. It seems the .30 cal barrels are pretty pellet specific. I have 16 tins of the JSB 2.9 gram (44.75 grain) but also four tins of the JSB 3.25 gram (50.15 grains available here in the US) to try. I guess I can use them to lead up the barrel if they don’t do well in the 30 cal Matador. 😎
“Use JSB 2.9 gram pellets, they fly much better then JSB 3.1 gram pellets”
hey hey Donny,, don’t you know the Kurdish people yet? i think you don’t know them…. we are very brave and don’t afraid of death… we will fight till death…
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Those babies are in extremely short supply with a very high demand at the moment. 😉 I wouldn’t even venture to guess what level of a premium one might garner. 😯