edgun matador r3 long .25 expert needed!
any ideas about who can professionally tune edguns in US? I am eager to do it myself but I ‘d rather have someone else tuning and adjusting it without damaging or … Any input would be helpful. I own two r3 long in .22 and .25. The .22 was set around 905 out of box and it ‘s great the way it is but the .25 is shooting hot around 980 or so. I know that there are great answers and by pros here but I ‘m really wondering if there is anyone that gets the majority votes?
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I think ED have figured out a sweet spot for the regulator on the latest .25 Longs now.
The first shipment of R3 Long .25 in US (I was one of the lucky few) had some major issues with Regulator and I posted some shot strings out of the box and with just HST adjusted. It was making a big S curve, it was ugly and not stable at all.
Thats when Tedd (OG) came to help and I had some good tips on how to tackle the Regulator. It needed to be turned down and I was able to achieve very nice flat shooting string with about 75-80 usable shots at 890-900fps.
On the other side.
I just recently got another R3 .25 Long from the latest shipment and it came shooting around 950 fps out of the box. I turned down HST to get to 900fps. …. and it produced beautiful flat shot string without jumping up or down at any point of the string.
This makes me think that there is no longer a need to mess with regulators on the latest shipments of R3 .25
Alright then, what discribtion or prescibtion will do the cure?!!
respect you guys and appreciate your inputs.
so how is it that they have to dig in to the reg to adjust the power! most of the places where I read about the same common issue started from turning the regulator down…
The hammer spring adjuster on mine is pretty stiff and this is after loosing up the screw enough not to be on the way! using the tool which won’t damage or cause any deep marks would do the work
Thanks Ted,
You can lower the speed by just turning the HST screw out BUT, the weaker spring pressure won’t be able to fully open the air valve until the pressure drops some in the air tube. The air tube pressure shouldn’t have any effect on the on the reg until the air tube pressure drops below the reg’s set pressure but, on the Matadors, it sure as hell does! Once the pressure drops some, the weaker HST will be able to fully open the air valve. Your speeds will start climbing, reach a lower max speed than they were before adjusting the HST and then they will start to drop off as you get to the reg’s set point.
You will end up with a pretty nasty lookin bell curve that might start at 890, slowly increase to maybe 940-950 or so and then slowly drop back off. You could be easily looking at a maximum deviation of 50-60 fps, or more.
Just trying to turn the HST down almost drove Mamcrackin and me nuts until we finally decided that we had to turn the regulator down also to reduce the speeds AND still have a flat shot string.
IF your reg is set close to where it should be, you can get by with a HST adjustment. Speeds that are 15-20 fps too high can be adjusted down with just HST adjustments. Anything much more than that, at least for me, has also taken a reg adjustment.
The HST and reg work in unison and I would be VERY surprised if you could take a Matador R3 25 long that was shooting in the 980s and get any kind of a useable shot string by just adjusting the HST.
It wouldn’t hurt anything to give it a try and post the results here.
Just my $0.02.
What if it comes out around 980? Would that be still doable with hammer tensioner for how many turns counter clockwise?
Yes – the hammer spring adjuster will work. There is no need to go digging for the regulator. I’d start by giving it a full turn counter-clockwise and see where that gets you. Fine-tune it from there.
Ted,
What if it comes out around 980? Would that be still doable with hammer tensioner for how many turns counter clockwise?
Thanks.
I was referring to the hammer spring hand screw. I have never tinkered with the reg. I doubt I ever will.
Gentleman, turning the reg counter clock wise increases spead, turning the hammer spring counter clock wise decreases spead.
He said in another post, it is 885fps.
I think he meant the regulater.
Thanks Ted
Looking forward to your new videos on matador .25
you said turning 3/4 turn to bring speed down to 900 f/s, did you mean hammer spring or regulator?
Thanks.
Thanks Old Goat
880-920fps. Every gun is different. I keep mine right at 900. It arrived shooting at 950fps. 3/4 turn counter-clockwise put it at 900.
I think OG shoots his at 890fps.
Can you tell what ‘ s the best speed for the best accuracy and power out of r3 long .25 for long range over 100 yards?
Thanks Old Goat
Now that is one accurate discribtion. Well done!
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My experience with my .25 R3 has been identical.