Edgun vs Talon
Other than being able to dig potatoes with the stock or hang from a tree limb.. does the edgun offer and advantage over the talon?
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Man I wish he would have offered it to me….
That’s the first one I’ve seen re-sold.
Is that the standard stock stripped of paint??
I don’t want to know why you sold it!!! I don’t want any doubts until I find them out myself.
One just sold on the yellow.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/79574/message/1253547458/FS-+Edgun+Matador+.22+with+custom+stock
dog
My thoughts exactly.
It is indeed a sweet, sweet gun, but 1500 bucks?
Nah. 🙄
Looks great with the bipod on. I just can’t bring myself to pay $1500 for something made on a man’s leg in Russia. 😆
LAter
Can you get a bipod onto it? How about improving the moderator (I heard that it was good, not great)?
Here you go Tron…
If I wanted something mainstream, I’d have ordered something mainstream. Risk?…Yep!
If we wanted something mainstream, we wouldn’t be shooting Air guns in the first place. Heck, Al my powder burning friends think I’m nut’s. 😆
I did a long search on bull pups. Seems they first became popular in the late fifty’s-early 60’s. The then died out. Seems the same problems I just questioned eventually cooled the waters and they faded away. They have poked their heads up periodically ever since.
The first most popular ones had the bolt action of high power rifles right under the cheek bone of your face. Very uncomfortable. Not to mention the danger if something catastrophic went wrong. A lot of design and years of experience has gone in to the cheek area of stock design. Both for comfort, and for proper cheek weld. Leading to enhanced accuracy in multiple situations. The bull pup design does away with many decades of research, design and experience all at once.
The balance kills accuracy in anything but a very steady rested position. (Ever seen a Bull Pup at Camp Perry? Or any other major match? The British tried with their’s. It failed miserably. Where it does excel is in compactness. Like in war where space is a premium. I for one have no such limitation when hunting. If I did, I would never have switched from a 12″ barrel. .20 Talon SS to a 21″ .25 with a long shroud.
Should make a good car gun for shooting varmints. Just so happens that is what Ed. designed it for in the first place. Shooting crows from cars in Russia. Problem is, That is illegal here. Shooting from the road, is a big no-no here. I’m just looking for some way to justify it’s existence and use here. Other than it just looks cool. 1500.00 US Cool? I can’t judge that for any one. May be it is. 🙂 I mean, why do I wear a 7000.00 US watch with out a bit of gold or diamonds in it.
I like it. Good enough! Besides. It looks cool! 😉
Well stated, no argument here. All I’ll add is that my motivations MIGHT be similar to some of the motivations of those that buy your knives. I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t expect it to go up in value, but right now – it’s as close to unique as one can get in an airgun without building your own and I LIKE IT. $1500 is alot for me but I’ve sold a good bit of stuff to cover most of the cost. I have a rifle packed in the hallway that I sold today. I’ll have a smaller collection but hopefully one I’m happier with.
I do a fair amount of offhand shooting but really only to 20yrds so I’ll be happy to compare the Talon, my 22xx variants, the HK97, the Nitro, and a few others to the EDgun from an offhand and bench perspective. 😈 😈 😈
It sure sounds like a good enough reason to me! I would like to see the same action is a conventional stock. I’m just an old fashion old fart. I might have to use the gun for a crutch one day! 😉
Mike
It failed in military small arms comp. It works fairly well in combat. However, it had problems and had to go thru a bit of redisign for the troops to be able to use it comfortably. The ergonomics have been much improved in the later design.
Probably the best in service Bull Pups so far, is the AUG. The new FN is a pain it the butt to shoot well. Especially with the supplied iron sights. A red dot helps a LOT!!!
Mike
Failed in general or failed in the competition you mention?
I’ve shot the SA-80. Infact the SA-80 was the first firearm I shot and I found it very easy to shoot accurately (perfect score during quals). I wasn’t shooting competition but even if the recoil is somehow easier to manage (.223 “recoil”… HAHA) in a standard rifle I don’t see that transferring over to small bore air guns.
I’ve shot the m-16 aswell and I prefer that rifle (and the M4 even more so) because from a design standpoint I much prefer forged and CNC machined receiver’s to stamped steel of the SA and its much easier to mount accessories and different optics, but unfortunatly I never got to shoot either with optics 👿
If I wanted something mainstream, I’d have ordered something mainstream. Risk?…Yep!
If we wanted something mainstream, we wouldn’t be shooting Air guns in the first place. Heck, Al my powder burning friends think I’m nut’s. 😆
I did a long search on bull pups. Seems they first became popular in the late fifty’s-early 60’s. The then died out. Seems the same problems I just questioned eventually cooled the waters and they faded away. They have poked their heads up periodically ever since.
The first most popular ones had the bolt action of high power rifles right under the cheek bone of your face. Very uncomfortable. Not to mention the danger if something catastrophic went wrong. A lot of design and years of experience has gone in to the cheek area of stock design. Both for comfort, and for proper cheek weld. Leading to enhanced accuracy in multiple situations. The bull pup design does away with many decades of research, design and experience all at once.
The balance kills accuracy in anything but a very steady rested position. (Ever seen a Bull Pup at Camp Perry? Or any other major match? The British tried with their’s. It failed miserably. Where it does excel is in compactness. Like in war where space is a premium. I for one have no such limitation when hunting. If I did, I would never have switched from a 12″ barrel. .20 Talon SS to a 21″ .25 with a long shroud.
Should make a good car gun for shooting varmints. Just so happens that is what Ed. designed it for in the first place. Shooting crows from cars in Russia. Problem is, That is illegal here. Shooting from the road, is a big no-no here. I’m just looking for some way to justify it’s existence and use here. Other than it just looks cool. 1500.00 US Cool? I can’t judge that for any one. May be it is. 🙂 I mean, why do I wear a 7000.00 US watch with out a bit of gold or diamonds in it.
I like it. Good enough! Besides. It looks cool! 😉
Well stated, no argument here. All I’ll add is that my motivations MIGHT be similar to some of the motivations of those that buy your knives. I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t expect it to go up in value, but right now – it’s as close to unique as one can get in an airgun without building your own and I LIKE IT. $1500 is alot for me but I’ve sold a good bit of stuff to cover most of the cost. I have a rifle packed in the hallway that I sold today. I’ll have a smaller collection but hopefully one I’m happier with.
I do a fair amount of offhand shooting but really only to 20yrds so I’ll be happy to compare the Talon, my 22xx variants, the HK97, the Nitro, and a few others to the EDgun from an offhand and bench perspective. 😈 😈 😈
If I wanted something mainstream, I’d have ordered something mainstream. Risk?…Yep!
If we wanted something mainstream, we wouldn’t be shooting Air guns in the first place. Heck, Al my powder burning friends think I’m nut’s. 😆
I did a long search on bull pups. Seems they first became popular in the late fifty’s-early 60’s. The then died out. Seems the same problems I just questioned eventually cooled the waters and they faded away. They have poked their heads up periodically ever since.
The first most popular ones had the bolt action of high power rifles right under the cheek bone of your face. Very uncomfortable. Not to mention the danger if something catastrophic went wrong. A lot of design and years of experience has gone in to the cheek area of stock design. Both for comfort, and for proper cheek weld. Leading to enhanced accuracy in multiple situations. The bull pup design does away with many decades of research, design and experience all at once.
The balance kills accuracy in anything but a very steady rested position. (Ever seen a Bull Pup at Camp Perry? Or any other major match? The British tried with their’s. It failed miserably. Where it does excel is in compactness. Like in war where space is a premium. I for one have no such limitation when hunting. If I did, I would never have switched from a 12″ bbl. .20 Talon SS to a 21″ .25 with a long shroud.
Should make a good car gun for shooting varmints. Just so happens that is what Ed. designed it for in the first place. Shooting crows from cars in Russia. Problem is, That is illegal here. Shooting from the road, is a big no-no here. I’m just looking for some way to justify it’s existence and use here. Other than it just looks cool. 1500.00 US Cool? I can’t judge that for any one. May be it is. 🙂 I mean, why do I wear a 7000.00 US watch with out a bit of gold or diamonds in it.
I like it. Good enough! Besides. It looks cool! 😉
LOVE MY TALON SS WROTE:
I also have a spear and love it.
It is a knockoff of the Spear. Made in the same factory that the Spear was made in. I wanted a Spear, they have been discontinued.
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Tony Rudenko imports them, they are going for $1549, including shipping to your door. trudenko@yahoo.com
I like the Raidfire spear flashlight. Or is that the knock off? either way it is a very good flash light.
I also have a spear and love it.
I would just shoot it who needs to aim.
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It is the older style Edgun. It has a safety and probably the old regulator.