High Mag Variable Scopes- For the Money
Guys,
I have asked a few questions on a few of the threads here where I see some of us asking the same questions to some degree… So I want to start a new thread here in fear of hy-jacking someone elses LOL…
I am just wondering how some of the regualr scopes you see forsale around in the 8-32 power range work against each other??? This power range would not exclude the Bushnell 6500 4.5-30 power mil-dot they have now either… So, lets say power wise long as it’s from 30 power or more and a variable power range…
Points I am interested in:
How clear the optics are on the highest power setting? This would be the biggest concern I have…
Next how well they work as you move the scope in and out making shots that vary from close up to far off and back, repeatable??? This would be kind of a good thing to be concerned about also…
Affordable??? Money gets in the way of everything around here so this would be important as well…
Mil-Dots only for me as well as Side Focus… Others are all great and fine, just that this is what I am interested in hear from you guys that have some of these…
Like the leapers 8-32 SF scope, they are nicely priced and all, Mil-Dot, I just don’t know how clear they are on the higher power range???
I have a Nikko- Nighteater 6-24, its not very clear on the higher power settings and for sure when it starts to get darker outside like right about dusk, you might as well dial the power out and take your best guess as to what your looking at…
My thing here is I like to glass more than I do anyone thing. Yes I have bino’s and they don’t offer the close up views we can get from scopes among these sorts of power ranges in the 30-40 power ranges… I just need to know what some of you have and what you guys think of these features I have listed as concerns please…
I don’t want to spend 300 bucks for something that is not very clear optics that I could add another 150-200 bucks and get something way better, if that makes any sense… I want something I can look through and see things up close and clear… Without buying the S&B’s or others that are 1000’s of dollars and don’t see things closer than 50 yards LOL…
I will say I don’t have to have the 10 yard focus, but would be nice if it did… I have somewhat thought the 4.5-30 Bushnell 6500 scope to be one of close bids to being a good scope for me. I like the idea of the 4.5 power for fast finding things in brush and trees. Then the fact the Bushnell glass has always been somewhat a great glass, just have not looked through these 6500 series and don’t have a clue how they are up close ranges and if when on high power, they clear or not. They are not cheap either… If there is a cheaper scope like the MTC-Viper 8-32, and it has good clear sharp optics on high power, I would need to hear this from you guys… I like the fact these scopes have the special recticle for air guns… Another one I have read to be good is the Seal Optics, they have a 8-32X50 that is said to have good optics, its also said to be 10 yard focus, only 275 bucks… Seems to good to be true it usually is???
Heck I know nothing more than what I have read and asked the guy that sells these… Have a look see at this here: Well the hyper link went to the bottom of the page guys, sorry… Not sure whats with that, but its there…
So what have you guys got and looked through and what do you all think of these… Which one for the money guys, in this power range???
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=151384462
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Lang has one. I’ve looked through it and it was good. About the same as my Viper (dammit!) For the money its a pretty good buy. Reapeatable according to Lang, the clicks are nice and crisp, big tall turrets for gloved hands.
X2??
Anyone have experience with the Hawk 8-32X56 sidewinder??? That or any of the Hawk Glass, they sure look good, but do they look through good LOL…
It will do all you want it to do.
For $650, it better have tits and bring me a beer when I tell it to. 😉
That’s it? 😯
+1 and look like the gal in love my talons ss’s avatar damn id like to have some milk from them .. 😀
Guys, you know with the reviews on things like they appear, its like if the glass is under 550 bucks your scope might be a good one and it might be a bad one… Seems to me that your best bet would be to look through the very one you want, as the one next to it that is exactly the same might not be worth a darn…
Least it sure seems this way to me… You guys think the same thing??? I just don’t believe all the glass out there for even 200 bucks, you figure some of these are good glass… You would have to pick and choose to get it though… Sure seems this way, or I doubt that many would buy all these they make…
Just all messed up if you ask me… Good glass sure is a cool thing to have though… I ain’t much on the idea of diving a nail with a leatherwood I was looking at LOL… Sure seems harsh, the way I drive a nail LOL, damn harsh… Oh well… Got to do what you got to do I guess…
I sure want to thank everyone for all the comments on all this
I thought The leather woods looked pretty good , But I was reading on sniper central, and someone asked about the leatherwoods and they said they’re pretty good for driving nails but not as a scope.
Nobody on SC is using them . not much for good reviews , so take it for whats its worth .
The Falcon menace is OK for the money ,Some guys wont use them .
the wonders optics are supposed to be pretty good for the buck. they’re supposed to use the same glass as the Leupold’s.
The MTC viper had good reviews.
But your lower end scopes 150 -400 I still think a Bushnell , or a low power Leupold.
dont worry about the bells and whistles. performance only
OK guys,
Any of you checked out the Leatherwood glass or maybe have one???
Here is one I could see working if the scope is good and clear anyway. Just no nothing about these… Here is a link to better prices on them:
This next one has adjustable elevation knob, that has ten pins you can set your self and then they lock in place… Kind of neat sounding for mounting on air rifle as I would be…
http://www.opticsplanet.net/leatherwood-hi-lux-atr-uni-dial-7-30x50mm-riflescope-ud730x50md.html
This uni dial shows real promise here also as they have a better price on them… So any of you guys know about how clear the optics are on the higher powers???
I know what you mean Rowdy. I have some of the old Japanese Simmons AO scopes and they are great! A damed shame that they went under and re-surfaced from China. A real let down.
As mentioned earlier, the Weaver is pretty good, just not side focus.
About that Rapid, If it is too heavy for you , I’m sure I can provide it with a good home 😆 😉
There should be plenty to choose from at the D-FW gun show! 😀
I’ll have to admit, the ZOS I looked at recently was MUCH better than I expected!
On a side note, watch out on the lower priced Lup’y scopes. Most of them only have friction adjustments in the turret. A very bad set up. I don’t know how they get away with it. Even the poorest quality Chinese scopes are well past that technology. That tech. went out in the 60’s. There is no excuse for it at all. And to get good glass in a Lupy, you have to spend a LOT of money. Well over a grand for still not top quality.
Mike
OK now, this is getting more like what I had hoped for, thanks to all that have replied with their thoughts about all this… I must say that I have even had one of the best Nikon scopes and the the best side of the Burris scopes that were nothing but murky crap at the higher power… I even sent the Burris in to be fixed or replaced, heck I don’t care about which, it still came back junk for as I was concerned, least for what I was doing with it… Those very two scopes the Burris and the Nikon really woke me up to the glass problems and I have been on the hunt for good glass ever since…
I never thought of those two cheap ended glass either. Heck I got a big Millet on a Volquartsen 22mag. right now that cost less than half what either one of those did and the Millet is a fine scope for the power and price… I am just on the hunt for bigger power to glass through right now… My next setup on what will probably be the Condor I have right now, I want bigger magnification on it to scope things out better and side focus a must have…
You guys are right about looking through these before you buy would be better also, if you can… Heck I got a really old Simmons 44mag scope, another 44mag that is newer and one of their 6-18 air rifle scopes that for the dollar those things are great, warranty is for ever and they are great to warranty or fix there glass for a good price…
Heck I loaned my Condor out to the local PD in a small town I go to ever night during the week on my daily route I deliver on. I have Coffee at like 3 in the morning with some of the cops there and they had mentioned having problems with skunks and the like, so I fixed one of them up with the Condor SS of mine. I mounted the Simmons 6-18 scope of mine on it and turned them loose with her… They had the rifle about two months, I charged it up with air about once every 3 weeks for them…
The night commander in charge loved the freakin’ thing, but then whats not to love about them right??? LOL Anyway they had a qualifing at the rifle range one morning early and he let everyone at this event shoot the Condor as it looks so much like the MP5 anyway and I have mine shooting so damn good right now… One of the guys there while they were all shooting and doing what ever, knocked the rifle over and it busted the scope up inside… He offered to pay to replace or fix it and I told them to forget it and never give it another thought… I know I can send this to Simmons and they will fix it up good as new…
I have it all boxed up and ready to go soon after the new year rolls in… I just thought I would wait till the new year to let all the mailing and shipping to get over from Christmas LOL…
The problem with Simmons is they don’t have a side focus in the big mag. I think I have to have LOL… The big ZOS- BuzzCat has might be an option, heck I don’t like spending anymore than I have to on glass… I understand the quality end of things and if I ever get to go to a gun show like in the D/FW area soon I will do as mentioned and look through several and see if I can find some that might not work just fine… The Millet is another I would consider, they too just don’t have the 8-32 power with a side focus…
Big and heavy SOB’s LOL… Boy do I understand that one LOL… This Nikko Nighteater I have now on my Rapid is one of those for a fact… Its just not a clear scope at the higher mag. and its also a little short on the mag at places I want to glass to see what is going on with the things I like to shoot at LOL… I have to admit though, about the big and heavy glass, that is another feature you pay for; is the lighter weight… Its one of those things I can’t afford so I will just lift more weights and see if I can grow up to be bigger and stronger 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 If need be anyway… Heck though, my Rapid is heavy without the glass anyway, so I lift weights to just get to have fun with it LOL…
The Bushy 6500 series I figure would be a great scope for the money alright, little more pricey than on the bargin end of my budget, but its in the running. Its one I don’t have to look through before I buy I figure…
You guys keep the suggestions coming please, its interesting for all to see what each other have and works well enough or not… Thanks again for all those that have posted here…
I belive the consenus is that in the cheaper range , Bushnells are the best all round buy for the buck.
Nikon has very good glass too.But I dont know about everything else.
If your more concerned with good glass and repeatable tracking than you are with magnification get a Leupold. just under 300 for a 3×9 and there guarnteed for life !!
Most of your standard snipers use 10x anyway , so if its good enough with them its good enough with me .
Dont get me wrong, if I had the bucks to get a 700-800 scope I would .
But I got to keep paying those bill things that keep comming. 😀
It will do all you want it to do.
For $650, it better have tits and bring me a beer when I tell it to. 😉
Hell, I’ll do better than that! It will shoot the tit off a critter and bring you a rabbit for dinner. 😆
What you do with the carcase is your buisness!!! 😯 😈 😉
On the ChiCom scopes, If you are going to buy one, it’s a good idea go go to a gun show,(The dealers are there like water) and look thru as many as it takes. They are not created equal. Not even in the same brand and power. The quality varies wildly!
It one of the things that separates the big boys from the also Ran’s. The quality control is a LOT better with the higher quality companies.
Mike
It will do all you want it to do.
For $650, it better have tits and bring me a beer when I tell it to. 😉
That’s it? 😯
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That’s for starters…
It will do all you want it to do.
For $650, it better have tits and bring me a beer when I tell it to. 😉
That’s it? 😯
It will do all you want it to do.
For $650, it better have tits and bring me a beer when I tell it to. 😉
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Thanks Pab.