High Mag Variable Scopes- For the Money
Guys,
I have asked a few questions on a few of the threads here where I see some of us asking the same questions to some degree… So I want to start a new thread here in fear of hy-jacking someone elses LOL…
I am just wondering how some of the regualr scopes you see forsale around in the 8-32 power range work against each other??? This power range would not exclude the Bushnell 6500 4.5-30 power mil-dot they have now either… So, lets say power wise long as it’s from 30 power or more and a variable power range…
Points I am interested in:
How clear the optics are on the highest power setting? This would be the biggest concern I have…
Next how well they work as you move the scope in and out making shots that vary from close up to far off and back, repeatable??? This would be kind of a good thing to be concerned about also…
Affordable??? Money gets in the way of everything around here so this would be important as well…
Mil-Dots only for me as well as Side Focus… Others are all great and fine, just that this is what I am interested in hear from you guys that have some of these…
Like the leapers 8-32 SF scope, they are nicely priced and all, Mil-Dot, I just don’t know how clear they are on the higher power range???
I have a Nikko- Nighteater 6-24, its not very clear on the higher power settings and for sure when it starts to get darker outside like right about dusk, you might as well dial the power out and take your best guess as to what your looking at…
My thing here is I like to glass more than I do anyone thing. Yes I have bino’s and they don’t offer the close up views we can get from scopes among these sorts of power ranges in the 30-40 power ranges… I just need to know what some of you have and what you guys think of these features I have listed as concerns please…
I don’t want to spend 300 bucks for something that is not very clear optics that I could add another 150-200 bucks and get something way better, if that makes any sense… I want something I can look through and see things up close and clear… Without buying the S&B’s or others that are 1000’s of dollars and don’t see things closer than 50 yards LOL…
I will say I don’t have to have the 10 yard focus, but would be nice if it did… I have somewhat thought the 4.5-30 Bushnell 6500 scope to be one of close bids to being a good scope for me. I like the idea of the 4.5 power for fast finding things in brush and trees. Then the fact the Bushnell glass has always been somewhat a great glass, just have not looked through these 6500 series and don’t have a clue how they are up close ranges and if when on high power, they clear or not. They are not cheap either… If there is a cheaper scope like the MTC-Viper 8-32, and it has good clear sharp optics on high power, I would need to hear this from you guys… I like the fact these scopes have the special recticle for air guns… Another one I have read to be good is the Seal Optics, they have a 8-32X50 that is said to have good optics, its also said to be 10 yard focus, only 275 bucks… Seems to good to be true it usually is???
Heck I know nothing more than what I have read and asked the guy that sells these… Have a look see at this here: Well the hyper link went to the bottom of the page guys, sorry… Not sure whats with that, but its there…
So what have you guys got and looked through and what do you all think of these… Which one for the money guys, in this power range???
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=151384462
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=151384462
Well, you can’t argue against Bushnell so I won’t even try.
However, on the cheapo ChiCom side of things, I’ll put a vote in for ZOS scopes. They basically look identical to the one in your link, so I’d imagine they all come from the same factory and are just rebadged.
I’ve got the ZOS 10-40×60. It’s a big ol’ SOB and a bit heavy, but I’m totally satisfied with its performance. Side wheel AO, mil-dot and it holds zero. The only issue is that the illum. reticle function also leaks a “puddle” of light at the bottom of the ocular…. not a big deal since I never use the IR anyway. The AO marks go down to 20 yds, but can turn down a little further, it focused fine at about 12 yds when I was sighting in.
The view I get at maximum mag is pretty darn clear and bright to me…. It’s certainly not foggy or blurry but I suppose it’s all a matter of taste and expectations… what’s satisfactory to me might be crapola to you.
The one big downside on the ChiCom scopes is that QC isn’t the greatest, and if you get a bad copy then returning it might be difficult to impossible, depending on who you buy it from.
Anyway, I paid $160 for it new on Ebay and got a “good” copy, so for not a lot of money I got a nice scope with a huge amount of mag power, and I can say that I’m perfectly happy with it. YMMV.
EDIT: here’s the scope, and these are the same folks I bought mine from. However, no other connection or relationship implied.
I agree with Knifemaker on the Bushys as a great bang for the buck. I also have had great success with the Weaver V series. Extremely clear and repeatable. I just finished mounting a V 24 with the fine cross hairs on my BSA. Not sure if the fine cross hairs are still available on this model as I purchased it a few years back but if it is you will not be disappointed with it.
KM,
I feared this and never have ordered it LOL… I would not spending the 275 for one if any good… As I mentioned though, I have a nighteater already and don’t need another one of those… I really would like to get “one something better”… LOL that is a new word, one something better LOL…
I just don’t want to spend anymore money than I need to in order to get one something better, if you know what I mean LOL… That is why I ask here as I am sure more of you guys here have more experience with this sort of glass than I…
I’m affraid that the scope you linked to is just another cheap Chinese multi mane scope. I have seen them at gun shows under a half dozen names. wince you look through on, you won’t bother doing it again. They don’t compare to Night Force Anything. (as claimed in the link you provided.)
If yo want sharp, bright optics, ESPECIALLY at higher power, it going to have to be quality optics. The 6400 Bush’s are about the cheapest out there with good glass.
The Nikko Diamond is fair. ( A LOT better than the night eater.) I don’t know why they call it the night eater. It is more like the Night Sucker. It Sucks in low light.
You may find that in very high quality glass, you don’t need anywhere as much magnification as you are use to. You can see a .177 hole in a black target just fine at 14 to 16 x with great glass. Poor glass will make it hard to see at any mag.
Bushy 6400, Leupold VX 4 or higher and Zeiss Conquest are excellent choices. 😉
Mike
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I have just about every scope, just about… Got the Big Diamond Nikko, Bushnell 6400, Bushnell 4200, Bushnell Legends, Leupold 36x dot, Zos, Nighteater, Centerpoint, Hawke, Tasco, Accushot, Millet, Leapers and probably another I forgot, and I can honestly say that for the money you cannot go wrong if you purchase the Bushnell 4200 6-24×50 tactical ( model 42-6245T). You can get one for @ $650.00.
It will do all you want it to do. I have one on my Edgun.
LAter