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Is shooting up into the air safe?

Adam made me wonder, but if you’re taking a shot at a crow in a tree and you’re pointing at like a 60 degree angle, would that bullet be dangerous while it’s falling? 🙄

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heheh. read the page. it is informative for your brain. i promise.

163 (ft / s) = 111 miles / hr

i think it was in reference to a bullet rather than a baseball

quote mavericks:

Found this info on the internet……”The speed at which a projectile must travel to penetrate skin is 163 fps and to break bone is 213 fps… (Belkin, 1978)”
http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/GUNS/GUNBLST.html
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I’m too lazy to read that link… but does it state the weight of the “projectile” or does it mean anything travelling at 163fps will penetrate the skin?

you guys should be clear about 90 degrees or 60 degrees. 90 degrees will mean it stops in mid air and drops down at terminal velocity or slower.

60 degrees means arc and the dang pellet will come down at almost 60% energy still. I’ve seen first hand the damage that I’ve done accidentally at 45 degrees….lol. The .22 pellet went through a .25 inch glass of a storefront and went through so clean it didnt shatter the glass. There coulda been a person there or a car….I was damn lucky.

I used chairgun to calculate the energy on the drop at it was enough to kill a squirrel i think…

http://chairgun.com/

this program shows a .22 eunjin leaving the barrel at 1000 ft/s (63 ft-lbs) pointed at 60 degrees coming down at 250 yards with 400ft/s (40% retained velocity). 18% retained energy (11 ft-lbs).

Found this info on the internet……”The speed at which a projectile must travel to penetrate skin is 163 fps and to break bone is 213 fps… (Belkin, 1978)”
http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/GUNS/GUNBLST.html

Another time i was walking around the house and forgot i removed the safety from the talon and pressed the trigger. Pellet went through the kitchen wall…and made a nice clean hole in the wall to the outside. lol

quote Cygnus X:

quote synopsys:

quote WalkonKing:

Jules,

Always know what is behind the pellet. It is dangerous and can be harmful.

Earth eventually… 😕

FYI anything falling is going to top out at around 120mph… Which is 176 fps…

But it is not a good idea at all to shoot up in the air…

120 mph thats just not true, drop a lead arrow of hmm say 20 pounds…thin profile and it will easily drop faster…the 120 mph is for humans falling in the standart skydiving belly first …and even that can be beat by head diving with an aero dynamic hat on

So lets double it, 320 fps, still with a pellet that is not a whole lot of energy and 240mph is way more that physically possible… I am not saying do it, I am just saying you could do worse…

quote shrpshotr28:

bottom line guys………..know what is behind your target. if out in the woods with nothing around you NBD. Need to think twice if in a suburban neighborhood where houses are 10ft apart and windows/people are everywhere. Every shooting situation is different. I recently lost a good shooting angle at work because of a clearcut between what used to be 100yds of thick trees and an apartment complex.

Needless to say, crows have been everywhere in that direction since the clearcutting in the background (where the pellet would fall) so no longer can take that shot safely. 👿 👿 👿 👿 👿

I shoot upward on many occasions, and in others I refuse to take a shot. Some situations it is safe, some it isn’t.

Is anyone going to get killed by a falling airgun pellet (excluding big bores, they are bullets) I don’t think so, but it could result in some upset neighbors.

The shooter needs to be a good judge of his/her situation.

A far more rational and realistic attitude. :thumbsup:

quote shrpshotr28:

bottom line guys………..know what is behind your target.
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The shooter needs to be a good judge of his/her situation.

absolutely!

bottom line guys………..know what is behind your target. if out in the woods with nothing around you NBD. Need to think twice if in a suburban neighborhood where houses are 10ft apart and windows/people are everywhere. Every shooting situation is different. I recently lost a good shooting angle at work because of a clearcut between what used to be 100yds of thick trees and an apartment complex.

Needless to say, crows have been everywhere in that direction since the clearcutting in the background (where the pellet would fall) so no longer can take that shot safely. 👿 👿 👿 👿 👿

I shoot upward on many occasions, and in others I refuse to take a shot. Some situations it is safe, some it isn’t.

Is anyone going to get killed by a falling airgun pellet (excluding big bores, they are bullets) I don’t think so, but it could result in some upset neighbors.

The shooter needs to be a good judge of his/her situation.

quote synopsys:

quote WalkonKing:

Jules,

Always know what is behind the pellet. It is dangerous and can be harmful.

Earth eventually… 😕

FYI anything falling is going to top out at around 120mph… Which is 176 fps…

But it is not a good idea at all to shoot up in the air…

120 mph thats just not true, drop a lead arrow of hmm say 20 pounds…thin profile and it will easily drop faster…the 120 mph is for humans falling in the standart skydiving belly first …and even that can be beat by head diving with an aero dynamic hat on

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Joseph Kittinger who accomplished a number of pioneering high-altitude feats during the 1950s and 1960s. Kittinger’s most famous first came while he held the rank of Captain in the US Air Force. On 16 August 1960, Kittinger jumped from a balloon high in the stratosphere to make the longest skydive from the highest altitude in history. It is a common misconception that Kittinger exceeded the speed of sound during his fall, but this was not the case. He did reach a peak velocity of 614 mph (988 km/h), however, a mark that still stands as the fastest speed ever reached by a human without a vehicle. Though Kittinger fell short of supersonic speeds, he did get pretty close and achieved a maximum of about Mach 0.9, or 90% of the speed of sound.

but what goes up comes down…not necersarily to earth, maybe to a window in a house sitting on earth…earth dont complain much…owners of houses bombarded with pellets do

quote WalkonKing:

Jules,

Always know what is behind the pellet. It is dangerous and can be harmful.

Earth eventually… 😕

FYI anything falling is going to top out at around 120mph… Which is 176 fps…

But it is not a good idea at all to shoot up in the air…

quote Buzzcat:

After three pages, I’m surprised no one has stated the obvious…

A crow in a tree…. Why would you think you’re gonna miss?

😉

well with squirrels all it takes is 11 fpe to make a pellet fly right through its head….i can prove that….and then i worry about what happens to the pellet when it comes down again, but as long as we are not talking heavy .22 or .25 i think we are good….

After three pages, I’m surprised no one has stated the obvious…

A crow in a tree and an AF gun…. Why would you think you’re gonna miss?

😉

I’m not going to read all the responses here, which are probably better than mine. But I’d say lighter .177 pellets are not going to harm a thing if falling at terminal velocity. That’s probably around 150 fps. Heavier .22s might give you a little sting if they did happen to hit you. Optimum range with most pellets falls into shooting at a 20-30 degree angle. As long as you shoot upwards at better than a 60 degree angle I bet all will be fine.

quote WalkonKing:

quote jooleyen:

Man I love sitting back watching yall argue. Thanks for the info everyone.

It keeps most these guys from beating their wife and kids…..lol 😯

Yeah, your daddy could probably use a break. 😆

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quote jooleyen:

Man I love sitting back watching yall argue. Thanks for the info everyone.

It keeps most these guys from beating their wife and kids…..lol 😯

Man I love sitting back watching yall argue. Thanks for the info everyone.

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