MRod Air P12 Update thread
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Are these inbound P12 for pre-ordered customers 21-100 who ordered them after the 20 samples? Based on my readings, they will be equipped with minor modifications/improvements (i.e. o-rings, bolt/probe modifications) that mrodair has specified but still no major upgrades (i.e. depinger, baffles, optional regulator or multishot)? On average, what was the pre-order price? About $690+ shipping? Or $750+ shipping as now displayed on their website? Just curious since it’s been rather quiet until now.
I received a email from MRODAIR so I thought I would share and Thank, Mike.
Tim,
We have tracking on our shipment now, so our information is much more up to date.
As usual, there is good and not so good news.
Our shipment, is much larger than reported, and contains several other models, and new designs.
The P-12, is only the beginning.
Now for the good:
The shipment currently inbound, is due to hit the US port, on July 1, at this time it will be transferred to truck and shipped to a bonded customs warehouse in Memphis Tennessee.
This will take just a few days.
Once there, it typically takes 2 days thru customs, and then can either be picked up by us, or further shipped to our door.
We have several options along the way, and it is possible to separate the P-12 from the order on the July 1 arrival, however sometimes we have found this process takes up valuable time to physically do, so it really depends on the circumstances at the time of arrival.
They are well on the way, and there are many aspects to take into consideration and decisions to be made during this process.
Our broker has been made aware of our intention, to receive the P-12 order as soon as possible.
Due to the still slightly complex routing of this shipment, and its physical size (over 2500 pounds)
We have a good idea of the arrival date, however this is subject to processes that are out of our direct control, so we report to our customers with the most accurate, and specific information available.
I can assure you, no other dealer or distributor can get them any quicker, and we will explore every available option, to expedite this shipment.
We are in hopes this information was helpful, and we very much appreciate your business.
If you have any further questions or inquiries, please feel free to contact us, or call me directly.
Thank you,
We are Mrodair
Michael Esch
Mrodair.com LLC
115 Main St
Sparkman, AR 71763-0123
1-870-678-3261
http://www.mrodair.com
I’m confused as to the price as well. Some of the first people who preordered got a $50 discount and free shipping which I understand but what is the current selling price? $680, $750 or higher? Also, is a depinger and baffles included for this incoming shipment?
as far as i know the 649 price tag was for the first 20. then it jumped to first 100 pre orders. though im not sure if all the first 100 are taken and claimed as of yet.
the baffles are not included neither is the depinger. you get the depinger with the master tune kit as well as 2 extra valve springs.
I want my rifle before rabbit season ends. been waiting on taxes so my mom can put the order in for me (dont have a bank account)
I’m confused as to the price as well. Some of the first people who preordered got a $50 discount and free shipping which I understand but what is the current selling price? $680, $750 or higher? Also, is a depinger and baffles included for this incoming shipment?
i failed to get my pre order in for the first 100. does that mean im out till end of july for my rifle or did you order more then 100 p12’s and the first 100 were priced at the 600 whatever price tag?
Hey Guys,,
He is spot on with this information.
This is the primary reason, we have not been able to post about it sooner, or more accurately.
The process, is not easy. I suppose as they say, if it were, then everyone would do it.
We make every attempt to make effective decisions, based on the information available, but this has effects that reach the other side of the planet, and there is always “cause and effect”.
The last shipment (20 samples), was expedited, to make this product available in the US for review, and let mrodair start to prototype parts and accessories for the new product line.
This was at a significant cost to us, and we felt it was necessary to offer customer feedback to the manufacturer, and offer a more refined product for you.
Any new design, to be of this quality, needs to be manufactured in small numbers, to insure the functionality, and that all the features work properly.
It is at this stage, when the determination is made by the manufacturer as to the feasibility of integrating this product into their
full production line.
At the present time, the P-12 is manufactured within their facility, but has yet to be integrated into the full production line.
It is a custom made air rifle at this point, just as the cricket, and edgun, and all others of this type started out.
For those who are familiar with the evolution of those brands, the P-12 in comparison has come a long way very quickly.
This is due for the most part by the manufacturers attention to detail, and their quality control.
They have a distinct advantage over others that have come before, in that they are already a large scale air rifle production facility.
It is also the primary reason that airguns of this type are usually much much higher in price.
We could have just slapped an inflated price tag on them, and been afforded the capability of having our website designed by
a high tech production firm, and had our videos, produced by a professional contractor, then just sat around waiting on others to improve on the product, but in the end it would have been the consumer who paid the price.
I took on this project, as a way to spend my retirement, and I LOVE MY JOB I assure you.
I really enjoy visiting with fellow air gunners, and designing and assisting in the production of some of the parts for product improvement.
Please bear this in mind, when noting our representations, and attempts at promoting this product.
Mrodair.com LLC, has the advantage of being “in the loop” during this process.
We don’t always make the most popular decisions in this regard, and tend to err on the side of caution, but the decisions we make are for our customers best interest.
We want to get the product to market quickly (because we don’t get paid until we do) and so does the manufacturer.
The container is being loaded, and is scheduled to leave port on Thursday the 12th (next week)
It contains over 2500 pounds of airguns, and accessories including our first quantity order of P-12 Bullpups for all the guys who have secured them by deposit. ( many more are being shipped the first of next month)
The current shipment also includes a large quantity of the M-10 pcp, the all new S400 air pistol (in .22 and .177), spring powered air rifles, some high quality high pressure hand pumps, and samples of the new CP-1 target pistol as well.
We will be adding these items to our website, shortly after they arrive, and are sending several of them out for independent testing and review.
I hope this well help, to give you a better understanding of this process, and I thank you for your support.
We Are Mrodair
I’d say Waldo is spot on regarding this. Too many variables before they hit Mrod’s door.
“im lost. her says monday then it changes to thursday. wonder if there was another last minute addition to delay the shipment. im not complaining, though i wish they would just get here already”
Understand your angst, but there isn’t a lot that Mrod can do about it- they are just trying to get customers the most accurate updates they can. They have no control over whether customers like the info they get. Believe me that no manufacturer wants to have production problems that delay shipment, because they generally can’t send you an invoice until it leaves their loading dock. This might not even be an issue at the factory: the shipping container they were originally cleared for may have been over-cubed or overweight. The ship carrying this cargo may have been delayed in transit or unloading at a previous port. The entire crew may have been infected by ass-weasels. They might be awaiting a replacement part for their Nav radars, etc. You just never know. Its like waiting for a flight at the airport and it gets delayed for 15 minutes and then they announce a delay for another 20 minutes and then they come back on the PA and delay it for another 20 minutes. Nobody enjoys it- including the people making the announcements- but at least they are trying to give you actionable information. Like they say, ‘Don’t shoot the messenger’.
NEWEST UPDATE
THE NEW SHIPMENT OF SNOWPEAK AIR RIFLES
(AND PISTOLS)
IS SHIPPING
FROM THE PORT ON 6/12/2014
(NEXT THURSDAY)
IT WILL TAKE 15-18 DAYS BY SEA, AND 2-3 DAYS THRU CUSTOMS AND BE AT OUR SHOP
THIS IS THE ONE WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR OVER A TON OF AIRGUNS
For all the guys that took advantage of the wingman special
This one is for you.
im lost. her says monday then it changes to thursday. wonder if there was another last minute addition to delay the shipment. im not complaining, though i wish they would just get here already
This is form Mrodair site.
NEWEST UPDATE
THE NEW SHIPMENT OF SNOWPEAK AIR RIFLES
(AND PISTOLS)
IS SHIPPING
FROM THE PORT ON 6/12/2014
(NEXT THURSDAY)
IT WILL TAKE 15-18 DAYS BY SEA, AND 2-3 DAYS THRU CUSTOMS AND BE AT OUR SHOP
THIS IS THE ONE WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR OVER A TON OF AIRGUNS
For all the guys that took advantage of the wingman special
This one is for you.
first thing that came to my head when i seen the SQ shroud was. “HOLY FCK THATS LONG” lol. what are you trying to do mike? assasinate EVERYTHING?
nice work on the breech. 15 days eh? good to hear. so 25 ish days till they get shipped?
Hey Guys
Already done with the multi shot breech retrofit.
Making a youtube video today
Just give me a couple of days to edit/produce it.
Click on the photos to enlarge
(its the real deal guys, I don’t have a clue how to use photoshop that well)
It will accept the single shot tray also.
Besides, Im having too much fun shooting it today
The LDC, in the photo 2, is a prototype.
We are making 2 types
Single tube, and double tube designs
Model P-12 Q and Model P-12 SQ
(quiet) and (stupid Quiet)
Both have interchangeable parts, and the two piece, just replaces the factory style end cap.
This way, you can have your cake and eat it too.
Short, long, quiet, or stupid quiet
(It will take a couple of weeks to make them in quantity)
We will post more in the upcoming video.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ALSO BIG NEWS ON THE ORDER STATUS!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!It is being shipped out Monday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Takes 15-18 days via sea)
I will post more later.
Lots of big news coming on this next youtube video.
(no I haven’t gotten any better looking, or had time to get a fancy new camera yet)
And Guys, please subscribe, and comment on the youtube videos. (be nice)
It helps you to get notifications about our new videos when they happen, and helps us
do better stuff.
Thanks Guys
We Are Mrodair
So the plan for the multi-shot is to use an existing mag instead of creating a brand new design to keep cost down? Glad to see there’s a prototype in the works. Hope the price of the multi-shot P-12 stays entry level.
its good to hear a solution for leftys can be had with a rapid mag. still waiting on the mass order to get my hands on the p12 :whistle:
patience is a virtue and im antsy as a kid on christmas eve to give this rifle a true consumer review to get the nay sayers silenced about the “cheap chinese rifles suck” attitudes. :angrymob:
I haven’t Ran that buy mike yet… He may not realize that the rapid mags load from either side.
the issue is they are 80 or so $$’s. i believe he was going to be going with the Mrod mags to keep the cost down……
I do believe the mrod mag and the rapid mag may be close in size. he may be able to machine the the inserts so it will fit both of them. otherwise he’ll have to make the inserts for each…
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Is there any update on the P12 .25 cal?
Dave