New threaded shroud design
I was recently asked by a member here if I could make a shroud that threaded onto the frame adapter. The adapter would stay in the frame, but the shroud tube will come off. I started on this a week ago, and at first I though it just wasn’t going to happen, because the threads have to be so fine. I searched through Machinery’s Handbook to see if I could find a standard thread that worked with the wall thickness and tube diameter, no such luck. So I had to base my thread off of a standard thread to make it work. To sum it up, after some fiddling and small cuts, I got the threads to fir together, and very nicely I might add. I wrote down all the measurement of the threads I made, so i can duplicate them in the future. Here is how it turned out.
I still need to find a finish that is very durable and looks good to. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Derek,
Those look good. Do they offer polishing or bead blasting at the anodizer?
Thanks man.
OK, shrouds came back from the anodizer, and it turns out the manager guy is into bigbore airguns. As soon as he got a look at these things he said, “are these silencers” I wasn’t sure what to say but I said they were for airguns and he asked what kind. He then said he has a large collection of airguns, and most have silencers, lol. I was scared for a second but it turned out alright. Anyways, here are some pics.
The one on the bottom is the one that is being discussed in this topic.
I was not planning on making those grooves, but there was a Very stupid line that my steady rest made, and I had to make it look better. All because I forgot to square up the ends BEFORE anodizing, lesson learned.
U did good bikin–way good. 😉
Potatoes make good suppressors too but cutting
1/2″ x 20 UNC treads in the end are a bitch! 😯
YN, I speak my mind, if you want to call it whining so be it. If Im just some guy whining all the time then why are you getting so worked up over it? You thought my “whining” was funny just a week or so ago when it was aimed at someone else. If you feel the need to take some cheap shots and call names then take your best shot. Im a big boy, I can take it. I wont even hold it against your or write it on a list to bring up at some future date in a totally unrelated subject or topic.
Come on man, really? Your upset because I wasnt kissing his ass like everyone else? I thought Mikes reg was really sweet and that the guy had a ton of talent. I posted that more than once. I didnt think he had come up with anything new though and thought he should give a little credit to the guys who had been talking about it for the last six months. He later posted that he had used ideas from many sources, both on our boards and others. His reg work was outstanding, unfortunately the design is flawed and most likely will go no further than his one off piece. Because of the design flaw no manufacturer including Air Force will ever produce it. Thats just my opinion.
Ive got nothing but respect for you and Wok. You both do some really nice stuff here and both go out of your way to help others out. Im still going to speak my mind though. Whenever I see a new thread from Bikini I mentally laugh and wonder how long it will be before someone slams his idea or post. Maybe Im the only one who saw that pattern.
Having said all that.
I have read the title of this thread but I still stand by what I have said. I would call what Bikini has made is a shroud with threaded end caps, not a threaded shroud. Ive already said this before but maybe I was unclear. When I think of a threaded shroud I think of a shroud that will thread onto something, a barrel for example. Something more along the lines of a firearm silencer or the shrouds that Blodnob makes. The ones that actually thread onto the barrel. If your really that worried about him using threads to connect the two caps to his tube you could just suggest that he put some epoxy on those threads so it would be permanent. I really dont see how his is so different than all the others here. You could just as easily take a shroud with glued in endcaps, remove a cap and glue in another one that would mate up to a firearm.
Shadoh,
Look at the TITLE OF THE THREAD.
As for his work being criticized BRAND SPANKYING NEW at machining his work will get critiqued especially when he asks it to be.
He is doing fine, but some good advise to keep him out of trouble be it precision in his work or some advice that “Just because you can build it does not mean you should”.
FYI – I know that Adam has been talking to Bikini about his work and giving him tips privately. You just said that your not saying his design is ok or not.. So you want to sit on the fence? but start an argument with someone because they have the balls to take a side??
Oh.. you dont think its a threaded shroud? Did you read the title of the post?
There’s some list where people rub us wrong and we don’t talk to them? Tell that to Langa, he got a baptism of fire here so to speak, but I helped him and his brother out of a jam by sending him a breech for nothing.
If anything it seems that we have rubbed you wrong, because all you seem to do is fucking whine about shit.
Sorry your pictures for regulators didnt get as much attention as mcmikes.. who actually made one… My fucking bad !
I wouldnt call his shroud a “threaded shroud”. It mounts to the airgun in the same way as every other shroud posted on these boards. When I think of a “threaded” shroud I think of the way it attaches to the gun itself. So that it will screw onto a threaded barrel. This seems like common sense to me but when it comes to the government common sense doesn’t always come into play but I believe that even they would come to the same conclusion.
I never posted that his design was ok or not and as long as Bikini has been reading these boards I think it would be safe to say that he knows the fire he is playing with. Hell, I would rather get in trouble for something like this at age 16 than after I became a “legal” adult. By all means warn the kid, and rightly so. It just seems that some here get more warnings than others.
Ill bet others have noticed the same thing. Around here it seems that first impressions are the most important. If you rub someone the wrong way from the start your on a list for life.
Many of us can make a screw on version but we do not.
As for constructive criticism given to bikin? You haven’t a clue what you are talking about. I have given him quite a bit.
It is a good policy to not have a threaded tube designed to silence a gun in your possession or recommend it to a 16 year old to manufacture them.
Trying to keep the kid on the good side of the law isn’t constructive?
Why don’t I bother with those other threads?.. cos they are big adults and should know better, not to mention I haven’t seen a threaded shroud here.. This is a 16 year old kid…. I think it would be remiss of me if I didn’t say anything.
I find your devils advocate approach here quite refreshing… but I think a cause other than telling a 16 year old kid that the legally foggy item he’s making is fine and everyone else is just picking on him would be better suited for your help. I’m sure if he does get into trouble that an excuse of “well this guy on a forum said it was OK, he’s not an attorney or in law enforcement and I don’t know him at all, but he said its ok” will help his cause a great deal.
So yeah, I think a little caution is in order – especially when dealing with a 16 year olds future.
And Bikini – I didn’t know you were 16 when I’ve made some jokes about your work in the past – I’m happy to see someone so young taking an interest in machining and your to be commended on that and I’m pleased to see that your checking reference works.
Let me get this one anodized and see how it turns out. I will also ring down my tubbing so I will have enough for about 5 shrouds.
Sorry bikin, I didn’t mean to freak out. I’m still looking to get my shroud anno’d any chance I could get in on this?
$20 for the lot. The guy has a minimum of $15, so even a tiny part would cost about the same as 10 tiny parts. It starts getting expensive when you want something big anodized, like a motorcycle frame.
Thats not bad at all. 20 for the lot? Or 20 for each?
There is a reason, and the reason is because it doesn’t really make anything easier, it is just cool. I was asked to make this and I did.
Hose clamps, some shims, and epoxy is all you would need to make any other shroud fit a firearm. If someone could make an adapter that fit a 10/22, they could just as easily build the entire shroud.
Seems like anything I build always gets criticized in some way 😕
With better news! I found a place that can anodize 10 of these at the same time for $20. I will get this done tomorrow and see how it goes.
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I still cant believe he did all three for 20 bucks. Ask him if he has a brother in Arizona that does anodizing. Hell, as soon as you make him a shroud or two you will get your work done for free ).