R3 .30 Cal in AZ.. Moderator Alignment – Clipping
…OK Guys. Yet another .30 cal has Landed…got it about 2 hours ago.. but had a couple of Honey doo’s.
The Scoop… Over all FIT and Finish Excellent .. Typical EDGUN Quality.. ( no ass Kissing .. Just Honest)
Bolt Pull… Smooth.. ( pull weight is about the same as my Daystate Air Ranger .25 that I had)
NO Bolt Blow by…
Trigger… Best one yet.. (compared to Leyla (2011) – R3 .25 (2013 early- 2 screw) – R3 .22 (Mid 2013 -1 screw)
Muzzle Flip.. No.. having shot the 30 cal Boss, Daystate Wolverine and a few other High powered Aiguns .. It is A 30 Cal… it is gonna Move!.. But I wouldn’t call it muzzle flip!
SOUND Level (measured inside with sound meter – not iphone)
.22 Leyla – 92.3 db (20 fpe 15.9 jsb)
.22 Std – 93.9 db (34ish fpe- 18.1 jsb)
.25 std – 97.2 db ( 50ish fpe – 25.4 jsb)
.30 LONG – 92-97 db —– it is hitting the pellet trap so hard I am not getting a good reading.. I got more readings under 93 db, and only one ore two that were 97. Total of 10 shots measured).. will remeasure out side tomorrow.
OK.. Now the part I need help with.. PLEASE!!! ASAP
The Moderator is clipping… Looking a the Muzzle it is at the 11 o’clock position. After a little head scratching my deduction is that it is a Barrel timing and/or assembly technique issue. The hole in the moderator is .353 as measured using a set of “Pin Gauges” (plus+). So plenty of space around the pellet. (compared to FX Boss moderator hole that is .025 SMALLER) (The Pellet clipping starts at the 4th baffle from the front.)
SO.. My Question to ED is … What is the ALLEN WRENCH SIZE to remove and Re-time the Barrel and Moderator.
(I currently don’t have one that big.. So I will pick one up tomorrow)
My best guess is that by loosing the moderator retaining nut and may be even the Barrel. That I can re-index them and get the proper Moderator alignment.
Mark
Photos and stuff to follow!
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It is 12 mm. but you should cut it to fit the space inside the moderator. Regarding clipping, I think that if it was clipping of 3 grams pellet at 100 Joles it shouldn’t leave the moderator alive 🙂 Most likely it can be lead from the choke, which fly out of the barrel with the pellet. I had such experience before. The problem could be only when the pellet goes to close to one of the walls of the whole so reassembling the barell can help. Keep me informed about it. I do hope we can make it working well together. At least those 10 Matador of .30 caliber I’ve sold in Russia satisfied the users, hope the same will happen in USA as well.
Just seen the photo of your tool, you posted them while I was answering 🙂 Nice idea, I think I have to take it 🙂
Your guys are really great… well right after I posted this I had a cup of coffee and went to work…this is what I cam up with…(I tried to think Like Ed….he didn’t go to Sears or Snap-on and buy something)
Took a mold of the barrel nut using “Duct Seal”… then turned down a piece of 5/8 bar to .55 and Milled a 12mm nut..
Drilled a hole….. AND … now I got a Barrel nut Tool…. 😯 😯 😯 😯
Well now its REALLY LATE …been up since 4am. Before I break anything .. gonna get some sleep and finish in the morning….Thanks again for the ideas!!!
MARK….. 30 CAL in hand… almost Ready to Rock!!!!!
If push comes to shove. Get a (cap screw) bolt, with a head that fits into the recessed hex nut holding the baffle assembly on (12mm) ? Also get 2 nuts that will thread onto the bolt. Jamb or lock one nut to the other on the bolt so the flats line up. Insert the bolt head down into the recessed fixing nut. With a (12) mm hex wrench over the two jam nuts above the recess you can loosen and realign the baffle fixing nut.
Did you get 100 pellets or so through it?
It’s unbelievable. The .30 is quieter that .22 std. Hope you can fix the clipping soon
It looks to be 12mm.
Let me know what tool you get and how you modify it to work.
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.. Couldn’t sleep….. Here are a couple of photo’s
First Baffle (Plate) from Muzzle – No Clipping
Middle Baffle (Plate #3) after Muzzle – Obvious clipping at the 11:00 o’clock position
Last baffle before End Cap (Plate #5) – obvious clipping again at the 11:00 o’clock position
I will attempt to unscrew the Moderator tomorrow and check the alignment of the components.. should be possible just to try different “timing” of the barrel – moderator – barrel shroud – and receiver..
Mark