REM M 700
I was looking at a remington police model 700 in 308, at the gun shop.
I asked the guy how hard it is to swap out a barrel . he told me . you cant.
???? he said why in the world would you want to swap out a barrel?
I said I might want to put a match grade heavy barrel on it.
He said well just buy tthis one .he siad its a mil spec barrel , I said you makes it?? he said its a mils pec barrel thats what thier useing now.
I was like whatever , ( guy is a fucking jerk) Now I had read somewhere the type of barrels used by US sniper’s
but I cant for the life of me remember it. it was made in Boston I think ,
Its not a LW or a shilen, anyone know the make ?
And Is this guy full of shit ?
the rem 700 police was around 750 -800 the model with mil spec as he said was around 1100 plus it was mounted with a Leupold mark 4 so it was around 2200.
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FYI- Back on the subject of ammo, be careful of surplus ammo picked up at gun shows. A few years back a couple owners of Mcbros. rifles had their 50’s blow up on them, Mcbros. inspected them and found no issues with their guns, they had also requested a few rds. of ammo that was used in them. At 1st, they thought it would have been custom HOT reloads, but instead they were surplus gov. ball ammo, upon further inspection Rock had found that the ammo was in “too good” of shape for it’s age. It seems that the people who sold the ammo had put them in a large tumbler to clean them up. What had happened was that the powder, being old already had broken down into a finer texture, which in turn increased the burning rate. So it was like loading rifle ammo filled with handgun powder, instead of the slower burning rifle powder.
Have you still not? Man use it or I’m taking it back! 😛
Another tip for it, shoot it offhand some. If you don’t and you end up needing to while hunting or something, you won’t hit jack.
Which reminds me, I need to try that trigger in the near future… 😆
I had an old remington 700 that was the same way. It was a 300 ultra mag with a 9lb trigger. The gun was hard to not flinch while shooting because of the caliber, and the trigger didn’t help, so I adjusted it. The trigger makes the rifle, I can’t stand a bad trigger.
The warranty. If you look at it, one of the things that is says are not covered is unauthorized adjustments. And here is what they say when you ask about adjusting the trigger:
NEVER remove the trigger mechanism, or make adjustments to the trigger or trigger assembly. This can put your firearm in an unsafe condition.
So adjusting the trigger yourself or at a gunsmith that isn’t “authorized” voids the warranty. From what I heard, they did that a while back because of a lawsuit where some idiot adjusted it wrong and hurt himself and decided to sue remington because of it. So they just made it void the warranty if you touch the trigger.
Here’s where I got the quote:
http://remington.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/41/kw/trigger%20adjustment/r_id/166
And the bit about “unauthorized adjustments (under “what is not covered”):
http://www.remington.com/support/warranty/2_year_limited_warranty.asp
Mr-Lama: I had mine adjusted down to abit less then 3 lbs and had no Idea it voided the warranty. The gunsmith at the Gun shop I bought it from did it and didn’t tell me. Can you link me to this info please.
My 700 must of had about 20 lb pull new, it was all I could do to pull the trigger.
The trigger has worn in now and I can live with it.
Sam 😕
Without a doubt!!! 😉
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They are the best. $200 is a good bit, but it’s well worth it. 🙂
Without a doubt!!! 😉
I do have a Savage Tactical with old style trigger that i could not get below 3lb reliable, so i put a rifle Basic trigger on it ,it is under 1 lb. and glass smooth. It was not very expensive either.
Yeah, you can adjust them pretty easy. I made my old one pretty light and it was reliable.
But if you buy a new remington 700 adjusting the trigger voids the warranty, which a lot of people won’t want to do. I was just talking about how they are from the factory.
I havent bought any of the newer M 700 s but the older ones will adjust down to under 2 lbs just fine ,0 creep. 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 lb is plenty light for me.
I do have a Savage Tactical with old style trigger that i could not get below 3lb reliable, so i put a rifle Basic trigger on it ,it is under 1 lb. and glass smooth. It was not very expensive either.
I’d bet it would be better than that with off the shelf ammo if it is a LEO spec…
I looked at one of those before thinking I would get one. Most everyone said it is a .5moa out of the box shooter. Some people said they were getting incredible groups as small as .2moa at 100 yards. Either way, it will shoot under 1″ at 100.
Only thing wrong with it is that remington 700 trigger. They are horrendous most of the time. Can’t shoot a gun if you can’t pull the trigger. That would be the first thing I swapped if I wanted to make it more accurate. Get a JEWELL trigger for it.
I’d bet it would be better than that with off the shelf ammo if it is a LEO spec…
I would be willing to bet that that rem would shoot under a 1” out of the bow with the right load , i have more thatn one that will do it.
As far as the orignial topic, he is wrong and right. It can be changed, so he’s wrong there, but he’s right as to asking why would you want to change it. Sure it’s not the most accurate rifle out there, but it would be cheaper to build a rifle than buy one and take it apart.
The nato stuff is fine in bolt actions or guns that are built to take the extra pressure, but I wouldn’t recommend shooting it in something semi-auto that isn’t rated for it.
What kind of accuracy are you looking for? It’s not super hard to get down into the .5moa area (and a lot of those 700p rifles do it off the shelf), but getting lower takes more than just a good barrel.
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and 308 is well 308
either way def not the same cartridge
The original 7.62 of WW-II fame was indeed 30-06, however, 7.62 NATO is .308. This isn’t a risk, as 30-06 is much longer. A LOT. I Will not in any way chamber in a .308 or 7.62 NATO
If you will further read the article,. you will find that the different specs given for the 7.62 NATA across the board from different lots, are much different within 7.62 NATO than the standard difference between .308 and 7.62 NATO. In general, contrary to conventional wisdom, true mil spec 7.62 NATO is lower pressure than SAMI Spec .308. The Case dimensions are not enough to give much of a problem in a good bolt gun.
Further, the 7.62 marked 1975 in what is supposed to be lower pressure 7.62 NATO is actually much higher than mac proof for .308 Win.
So for all practical purposed, from competent manufactures, they are interchangeable. You buy foreign junk, you take your chances in either caliber or either chambering.
Mike