sorting pellets
This is a real quick way to sort , and the crossmans as you guys know need it, i like the pellet , and this helps get rid of the fliers.
crosman hollow point
THIS IS A VIDEO
You can do this to JSB pellets and they will go to the same spot.
This is a whole can of 500 crosman .177 HP , 4 different piles , you reckon the one’s off the top and the ones off the bottom are some flyer’s.
could probably put in 1 or 2 more dividers if you wanted and even separate even more.
made this to sort them further
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slayer5
Yep ,IT’s raining here, and can’t do the job i was scheduled to do.and no one else is here , so i get to F off, LOL
As far as pellet size, it is going to be up to the gun that your shooting. the way i am thinking right now, i will try and size the crossman H.P. up to like .229 at the skirt and see how this works.
I think i can figure this out , that is how to do it , for a quick try out. if i can come up with the right drill bit size i have some poly solid plastic material that i can drill a whole in, and make a small hole all the way thru for a punch to push pellet back up.
Its some kind windy here right now , but i will see how this works.
i dont think that this really would be worth it on a good pellet lke the JSB , but i have a bunch of crossmans to play with , and they need the help for consistancy.
You have too much time on your hands. lol
It is amazing that such a small difference would change your groups.
The Crosman Premier (die #4, die #5) the head size was real close.
If the pellet just fell thru the Beeman Sizer it would go into the “just plinking” bin (small head).
So the .177 sizer was .1785, wouldn’t I want a .22 at .2215 ?
I am not worried about if one group shoots better than the other, only that when shooting a group , that they all came out of the same pile of sorted pellets.
They were pretty consistent going into 2 of the pellet tin lids. I took the smaller group and ran them again and most still rolled into the same tin.
I then weighted 20 from each of the 2 groups and they were essentially the same at 32.8 and 32.9 grams or average per pellet of 25.31 vs. 25.39 grain.
I made the clipboard steeper and they roll further down the board before dropping into a tin.
I’ll try to get more separation after I run some CPPN Hunting pellets.
yes sir i think the diameter is the ticket, i have set and watched the chroni when shooting the crossman h p pellet, and when one went in the breech tight the vel would be higher, and they would group differant.
Did that beeman sizer leave the head alone and just size the skirt. the head size seems pretty consistant, its the skirt that seems to vary.
IF a guy could set up a die to flare quickly then run thru a sizer , that would be nice.
I think that a push thru sizer could be bought thru Lee Precision, dont know about flareing. and this would allow you to size differently , to see what your gun likes the best.
Then again if a man had a laith , he could make a mold that a pellet could sit into at the desired size, with a center hole dilled from the top, with a spring loaded plunger to pop out the pellets.
and the base could be pushed up into the pellet from the bottom. wouldnt take much effort to do by hand. or set it up in a hand reloading press.???????????????????????????
seems like i have an old catalog with that beeman pell sizer in it , i need to look for it.
Or why not flare the pellet out and size it when pushing it into the breech, HHum!!??? Just might try , this one.
I know one thing, the 32 grain Euijens have to be pushed into my breech with a pellet starter. and they will shoot very well.
In the old days when I shot 10m w/ .177, we used to flare the skirt
and then press them through a Beeman Pellet Sizer. (NLA)
In my experience (that and few $’s is worth a beer) the diameter and
true-ness of pellet made bigger difference then a 1/10 of a grain in weight.
I wish I could find a .22 die for my old Beeman Sizer. By the way I have an
extra .1785″ die (part# 7201) I would trade for a .2190 (part# 7206).
cool , did they go into 2 places on the bottom, the smaller your dividers or marks on the bottom , the higher degree of sorting.
I am not worried about if one group shoots better than the other, only that when shooting a group , that they all came out of the same pile of sorted pellets.
I settled for a rootbeer and got to work.
These .22 x 25.4 g JSB MONSTERS gave me a 3/8″ group the other day at 890 FPS:
They look good here too.
That’s neat ❗
I’m going to try it after I quit thinking about #36 😉
I’ll substitute 2 bears for the 2 tears though 💡
Interesting findings…..
well i did try weighting them first , but the difference was like 14.2 to 14.4, i have even taken a piece of 320 grit sand paper and drag the pellets over it and take off the tip until they all weight 14.3,
This all takes forever, the roll thing is quick ,, you can do a whole can of 500 while watching a show on tv .
If saw this on the yellow along while back,dont have the time for this when work is busy.
but it really helps the crosmans h p allot, for the most part they shoot pretty good, i have allot of 1/4″ groups at 50 yards, i also have to shoot allot to get them because most of the time i will get a flier that makes the group go out to 1/2” , so i save the sorted pellets for target work ,
So most of the groups go like this, i get 3 in same hole ,( literally same hole) then one out, then other 2 in same hole, group size !/4” to 3/8″, with one flyer making the 5 shot smaller size with the 6 or 7 shot group under 1/2″.
I don’t think that this pellet has ever given me a group over 1/2” at 50 yards. unless i made a boobo or something.
have to weighed them also? are the same skirt size pellets close to each other in weight?
to tears!!!!!!
You guys all realize you have to click the first picture and you see a video, right? 😉
That’s pretty cool though. How bored were you when you discovered it? 😆
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I also have an old .177 pellet sizer along with a seating tool that helped my RWS model 45 Springer shoot accurately.
For a short cut, the pellet seating tool had a round ball at one end, and a tapered cone at the other to push the pellet in at the same depth every time. Instead of using the sizer all the time, I would use the round ball end to flair out and make the skirt uniform and slightly oversized for the chamber. Then I would seat the pellet using the tapered cone end and use the barrel chamber itself to form the skirt into the exact size each time. I think this tool is large enough to use on 22 caliber pellets but will have to check and see if it makes a difference.
Thank you all for the ideas.
Joe
Kingsport, TN