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Ted’s Latest Bobcat/Pigeon Video

What might be significant is that Ted has gone full circle and mounted his Hawke Sidewinder back on to the Bobcat for pesting/hunting. :biggrinn: He even takes a finishing shot at about 7 yards that would be impossible or less than optimal with many of these FFP and 50 yard parallax PB scopes. Great to see Ted back to these hunting videos. Don’t get suckered into $800-1000+ scopes (Nikon, Bushnell, Vortex, etc.) when a $500 or less scope (Hawke, MTS, Falcon, Aeon) may be more appropriate for the situation. 😉

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Kiba hit the nail – the right tool for the job. I should have added in the video that the .25 is the ONLY gun I own that I would prefer the Vortex to the Hawke. This is because I use the .25 almost exclusively for 50+ yard shooting. I have 10-yard parallax scopes on my .22’s, and even my .30’s. But, the Vortex scope does possess features that make it a better scope when shooting beyond 50 yards. The reticle is more precise for wind shots. The glass is clearer (to the eye). And, the longer parallax actually aids in range estimation because it is more precise than a 10-yard parallax scope – reason being that there is much more ‘dial’ on the parallax knob for 50+ yard shots. You know how your 10-yard scope take a half turn of the parallax knob to go from 10 yards to 50; but then 50 to 100 is barely a twist of the wrist? Well, all of that short-range parallax sensitivity in the Hawke (10-50 yards) manifests itself into long-range parallax sensitivity in the Vortex (50-100 yards). So, the Vortex is MUCH better at range estimation for longer shots (especially when the magnification is cranked to 24x).

So, when you see the Vortex show back during extreme benchrest, so not be surprised. There is no conspiracy – no deception – no bribes; simply a better scope for the job. 😉

As for why I thought the .25 Matador was too long, but now use (long) Bobcat….I have alluded to my reasons in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmuL6Z-RTEY&list=PLDDE0912CE3A989AE It is because the .25 (and .30) Bobcat CAN be converted into short guns. I use the long tube for stationary shooting because I gain 35 extra shots. But, for mobile hunting, I swap out the tubes. I took the Bobcat squirrel hunting several times last fall, using the short tube. In that case I knew I would not need the additional shots of the long tube, and the lighter weight was more desirable for 5-mile hikes through the woods. You haven’t seen footage of those hunts because there wasn’t any (It is almost impossible to film a hunt in an aspen clear-cut or tag alder swamp).

Youtube videos are only a slice of my hunting/shooting.

Hold my head to the fire if you must, but there is no way (after creating 100+ videos) to avoid creating a few [perceived] incongruities.

It all boils down to the right tool for the right job– and a scope with 50Y minimum parallax is not the right tool for an air rifle in my opinion & experience.

I wish more scope makers would offer all their scopes with 7-15Y minimum parallax; it’s not a limitation at all but quite the opposite, close range parallax capabilities only adds to the versatility of their products. I don’t know how many good scopes I’ve tried and then removed from my Edgun simply because they only offered 50Y minimum parallax. I know from experience that 50Y minimum parallax is far from optimal for an air rifle given some of the close range shots I inevitably end up taking and the closer in you get inside the minimum parallax setting you end up dealing with both a blurry image and parallax error on top of that– far from ideal.

To compound my frustration many cheaper scopes like Hawke offer 10Y minimum parallax on nearly all of their models and as you switch brands and go up in price many of the more expensive & better scopes only offer 35Y, 50Y, or even 75Y minimum parallax. I still have hopes, although slim, that one day manufacturers will start offering nearly all of their scopes with 7-15Y minimum parallax capability– that would allow for many more choices for air rifle use!

The Raptor/Omegas have arrived at AOA and they are going through them.

quote dman1114:

Looks like the used value on the hawke has just risen,

I suspect u may see an influx of vortex scopes on the classifieds

I’m still buying my Sightron !!!

Looks like the used value on the hawke has just risen,

I suspect u may see an influx of vortex scopes on the classifieds

I’m still buying my Sightron !!!

Too funny Donny. 😆

No questions here. Just observations. :biggrinn: You’re hardly the first person to switch back from a “better” scope to a Hawke Sidewinder or Optisan temporarily or permanently on an airgun for one reason or another. I have done the same myself. What’s new for me was the particular reason which I also concur with as well and also am not sure why that is unless it is related to scope parallax setting from the manufacturer. Which scope is better (better for what?) is somewhat subjective, though, and depends on what factors are important to the individual shooter up to a point.

My butt was feeling sore so decided to pop my head in here too. SEcoda were you minding fucking me? You’re no Tonto ok? Lol

Tonto: http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29543

Great video Ted!

I just stopped by to see if Hoot was back on his feet… but now I know why my ears were ringing.

Got a question (or an accusation :butkick: )? I am all ears. 😉

Some marketing cya. He complains about the limitations of the Vortex in other videos. It’s so good I have to use something else that’s even better – but no wait this one is better. 😉 It just proves the other compromises you may have to make for a hint better clarity may not be worth it. It just adds another reason to stick with the Hawkes.

Hmmm. Sounds like a politician to me. The other scope is better in everyway and it costs more.
But the camera footage is better through the Hawke so I’m ditching my expensive awesome amazing in everyway scope because……?????. First the Edgun 25 long was to big yet he loves his Beluga whale gun. Love Teds videos but his credibility is starting to crack.

Since Ted’sHoldover is the person who introduced me to the lovely Edgun, then i have subscribed to his youtube, web and all by him,,,, i was the first one who watched the vid ,,,,i wrote some words for him and i shared with my facebook and all,,,bla bla bla ,,,,

thanks CODA this is very nice vid,,, i can say ,,,Ted could make me to love Bobcat … 😯 😯 😯 😯 😯 now ,,,Bobcat is in my waiting list to be purchased like some other PCPs that i already like them ,,,

I can say that Ted is a very professional young man that can easily put the infos into your mind and makes you enjoy with his very enjoyable vids … thanks CODA and Thanks Ted… :8:

Nice video, my buddy just got the new BC in .25

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