THE BEST RIFLE SCOPE
Hello
i would like to know wich the best rifle scope ( manufacturer and Size ), to use in CONDOR .22, for a long range field target.
rgds
JOSE
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i chose NIKON BUCHMASTER , because, a great scope for a great price, and, i think in use the size 6-18 x 40 , and, i make somes upgrades in my TALON ( a friend make a new hammer with more wheight ( around 90 grams ) and BLODNOB VALVE ), well in first test with 28 g pellet, it crossed 1200 pages of telephonic catalogue and sank a steel drum of oil!!!! i think is a good setup for a long range shot.
let me know what you think guys
JOSE
😯 You sunk a WHAT??? Are you completely crazy???
So it’s not BP’s fault after all?
i chose NIKON BUCHMASTER , because, a great scope for a great price, and, i think in use the size 6-18 x 40 , and, i make somes upgrades in my TALON ( a friend make a new hammer with more wheight ( around 90 grams ) and BLODNOB VALVE ), well in first test with 28 g pellet, it crossed 1200 pages of telephonic catalogue and sank a steel drum of oil!!!! i think is a good setup for a long range shot.
let me know what you think guys
JOSE
😯 You sunk a WHAT??? Are you completely crazy???
Well here in Florida sinking a drum of oil is a sore spot. If power was what us Americans want, I’d say get a powderburner! What I like is quiet subsonic squirrel pounding accuracy in a small package!
I got a Barska 4-12×40 Mil-Dot and don’t have to mess with the turrets at all, just the AO. Close shots are using the lower dots and I have to use the higher dots as the range increases. One miss though and you know exactly where to aim the next one. With the scope so high above the barrel, this seems to me the easiest solution to variable ranges and field conditions. 😯
Thank’s Jim and Dudu,
i chose NIKON BUCHMASTER , because, a great scope for a great price, and, i think in use the size 6-18 x 40 , and, i make somes upgrades in my TALON ( a friend make a new hammer with more wheight ( around 90 grams ) and BLODNOB VALVE ), well in first test with 28 g pellet, it crossed 1200 pages of telephonic catalogue and sank a steel drum of oil!!!! i think is a good setup for a long range shot.
let me know what you think guys
JOSE
Nikon is known to have customer relation problems. (Like they don’t give a crap.) Lupy and Zeiss are Golden in this area! 😀 Lifetime unconditional. Period!!! Zeiss, Even used, still lifetime.
Leica= very high quality. At a very high price. Lower power hunting models offered so far.
i would like to know wich the best rifle scope ( manufacturer and Size ), to use in CONDOR .22, for a long range field target.
rgds
JOSE
Jose,
The Hawke Sidewinder Tacticals are very nice scopes if you are on a budget. They don’t compare with the $2500+ S&B but don’t cost as much either.
Be advised, not all the scopes will focus down to 10 yards if this is a concern for you. I know you said long range field target….but Field Target Competition is shot from 10 to 53 yards so a scope that focuses to 10 yards is required to compete.
Also, the higher the magnification, the better the ranging accuracy, a 14x scope will not provide accurate range estimation like a 24, 32 or 50x scope will. I prefer the highest power for ranging, even if you don’t keep it zoomed in to shoot.
Hope that helps.
Jim
The Leupolds and Nikons and higher end Bushnells even at 12 or 14 power will always be better than a Leapers or BSA at 24.
Roachcreek
+2 I compared a bushy 4-12 at 12 to a Nikon x-9 and found the Nikon 9 had greater magnification and clarity than the bushy at 200 yards (center fire).
Scope are most definitely in the category of “you get what you pay for”. I shelled out $200 for a new scope and got exactly what I needed and I’ve been happy since!
Save your money; buy an expensive scope once and be done.
Ai, eu estava comprando uma bushnell Elite 6500 4.5-30×50 mildot.
Essa esta se sobressaindo muito bem no mercado atual, muito boa para lugares cujo qual o clima muda o tempo todo.
Nao se assuste com o preco, vc sempre pode comprar pelo ebay 😀
I’m glad no one is recommending NcStar. They don’t cut the lenses to the outer edges, the only clear area is the center of the picture!
After clearness, the other quality area to be concerned with is the adjustment mechanism. Pull a cheap scope apart and you see where the corners are cut in production. Return to zero is a big guess on cheap scopes after you start twisting the knobs for range changes. I like Leopold and Burris most because they are consistantly good products. Bushnell and the multi-factory giants have good and bad models scattered all over the global market.
Most of those high power scopes will not be clear on high power. Don’t confuse high magnification with reach.
The Leupolds and Nikons and higher end Bushnells even at 12 or 14 power will always be better than a Leapers or BSA at 24.
Roachcreek
Well guys, i have one more doubt, we have many scopes in the market, i use my airgun ( Talon with blodnoble valve, hammer 95 gram wheigts ) to shots around 150 yards and i would like to know what it would be better : LEUPOLD OR NIKON 6-14X40 or LEUPERS, BUSHNEL, BSA in 6-24X50 ( scopes with price around US$400,00 ).
Well, what is better, a scope of better quality and minor reach, or, a scope of inferior quality, but, greater reach ?
let me know your opinion guys.
JOSE
I bought the Millet, for the money it had all the options that I would trust to work for the money, meaning the cheap ones would not work for an illuminated reticle, which I do not use, 30 MM which is too big for the gun and 4×16 where I do not use anything above 12, and advertised resettable turrents which did not..
Sound like I am contradicting myself?
Today I sent it back to Bushnell/Millet, yeah they bought them out.
I spent 3 months breaking my air rifle down and cleaning it, trying different pellets and the 12 and 24 inch barrel, different tanks, bought a chrony which didn’t work and is at the repair station. different holds. putting my mouth in different postions and tongue postions while shooting.
All this because my 1/2 minute at 50 yard rifle suddenly would string shots from left to right in 2 to 3 inch groups.
Then I put my standby back on, the $57.00 Baraska 3×12. Suddenly I have 1/2 inch consistant groups again.
Whadahyuh think is the problem???
The Millet has too many things to go wrong for $300.00.
I always used to tell folks, spend as much on your scope as you do on your gun, of course the Baraska shoots that advice down, but in reality it still holds true.
Cheap glass is cheap glass, the newer lenses will always be clearer than the older scopes because of modern coatings, don’t let that fool you, for eventually they will fail, maybe yours hasn’t yet.
When you hear of those guys with expensive Bushnells, Nikon, Burris and leupold and Swarvaski’s et all., high end glass, they simply know something you have not learned or afforded yet.
Cheap glass will eventually fail you, on a pellet gun it is usually frustrating, but you will not go hungry or someone die because of it, but it will fail eventually.
I don’t trust the Baraska for any length of time, it is why I bought a higher end scope, just that the Millet was not far enough up the ladder for all the gee whiz shit it had on it.
I looked at the Nikon Buckmaster side focus, but I wanted a 30 mm and a illumated reticle. Both of which I didn’t need, for me, I learned the 30mm offers nothing but bulk. And if I can’t see that reticle, the glass is not good enough or my light not bright enough.
There is a reason the Millet cost $300.00 and the Leupold Mark whatever cost $1100.00 and as I paid the post master to ship that Millet back to Kansas today, I learned what it was.
Quality.
Roachcreek
don’t rule out Leupold.
ALL Leupold scopes are airgun rated and have a “no question, lifetime guarantee”…and you can have one ‘custom’ built for your needs/wants by their custom shop.
not cheap, though…plan on at least $500.00…
I saw some technical sites and, they like NIKON, i saw too LEICA, does anyone have some information about her ?
JOSE
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Hi,
try all the stuff, but I don’t shoot better groups with giga mag. scopes.
Less is more, use good Q. glass. ( what are they using in the army? most of the time less then 10X, those guys are NOT stupid. 😉 )
And for crows use an anti relfection honeycomb divice, it helps a lot.
I use for years an Old Zeiss 6×42 ret. 4 T* scope with homebrew Target turret and a Leica lrf 900/ pinmaster rangefinder.
or use reticle no 8, the hairs are less FAT.