Trigger problems

This same problem had me really confused for a couple hours the other night after I was playing around with trigger parts. I found that if I held the plate with just finger pressure the gun would cock, but when I screwed the trigger guard screw in it would not. I found two things that helped me. First I moved the sear spring slightly forward. I also put a small washer on the trigger guard screw keeping it from turning a 1/4 turn or so. Seems like when its cranked down really far the gun just wont cock.

Words of wisdom right there brother 🙂

I doubt your trigger group has been harmed. The hammer spring that came with the selph valve is likely the problem. Not the compression wt. of the spring but the Id and the length. The Id of those springs is to small to go over the end of the PW, so you have to hack up your PW or eliminate it and use spacers.
Try this before you order new trigger parts. Put every thing back together trigger wise, and in the barrel housing. (tank off) unscrew the cocking knob from the breech, remove the plastic PW screw and the frame grub screws so the barrel will slide in and out freely. hold the barrel in your left hand while pushing the breech forward with your finger till you feel it clear the sear. Now sit down and brace the back of the gun on your leg. the barrel should push up and down against the hammer spring. “Push the barrel down against the spring and pull the trigger” and the breech should fire back to the collar. If not then its time for a new trigger group. etheir way throw that terribly sized Hammer spring in the trash and order the rightsize from century spring 😕
Tag,

So true, so true

[quote=”ewoodie”]hi,

did you put more pressure on the hammer?

Is the hammer up side down in your rifle?

Did you put the trigger parts in good position when you build it together?

On this pic. the triggerpart on the right must fit between the two fingers of the middle part.

When your working with the trigger group the intermediate bar wants to pendalum down and the forward engagement of the trigger will end up on the wrong side. That would keep it from cocking.

Newbie,

I have been plagued with problems with my rifle not cocking with the heavy springs, everything from breech knobs tearing loose to shooting sessions disrupted because the thing just would not cock anymore.

If you still have your original spring, you might try that with the stock hammer and see if it works.

You have probably already done this, you do sound through in your investigation of your problem.

My usual fix has been one of two things, move the sear spring, the one closest to the muzzle forward to the end of the sear, as I explained or I sometimes just start from the beginning by switching parts left over and sometimes stripping down my other AF rifles and interchanging parts.

If it works with the stock spring and hammer, you will know that your trigger group may not be to blame.

It could also be that your heavy spring is keeping your breech from going forward enough in the cocking stroke. This happened to me once or twice with the factory breech knob leaning due to stripping out. You should hear three distinct clicks when at the end of the cocking stroke. My rifle will not cock on the first two audible clicks, but on the third it does cock.

Good luck, I know this must be frustrating. Perhaps one of these master machinsts here on the forum will design a better set of trigger parts.

Roachcreek