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Trouble dialing in .22

Gentlemen,

This is going to be long, so buckle up. I just want to give as much information as possible to help diagnose my gun’s problem.

When I first got my Vulcan Pup Gen4, it was shooting like a dream compared to my springer, but I thought it could be better.

Around the 2000 shot mark, things started to go wonky. I would be hitting bulls-eyes, and then for no apparent reason, it would start grouping low or really high or to the left or right. I would re-zero the scope, and everything would be fine for a bit. However, eventually it would start all over again.

I clean the barrel after every 500 pellets using Kleen Bore Formula 3 on cotton patches pulled through the gun from the muzzle end. The patches are pulled with a piece of weed-wacker string that has a piece of 50# test fishing line taped to the end (in a loop).

Things I have checked:

1. I removed the stock and side-plates at the back. All screws were checked in the area around the rear block and all moving parts were cleaned/oiled.

2. I checked for an air leak at the probe by using the tissue paper method.

3. Scope rings and picatinny rail bolts were checked.

4. Bolts holding the trigger assembly checked.

5. Side plate removed and barrel bolts (One side only) were checked and found to be tight.

6. Shroud removed and gun was shot, which actually made the POI worse.

7. LDC removed and inspected inside for evidence of pellet clipping.

8. Stock bolts checked for tightness.

9. Gun shook listening for rattling.

10. Breech o-ring gets lubed with silicone (from the dive shop I work at) every time the barrel is cleaned. Applied with a Q-tip.

11. Tried shooting AA Diabolo Field 5.51 16gr. They seem to shoot a little worse than the JSB 18.13gr that I am currently using.

12. Parallax error minimized by proper scope setup. Scope Werks side-wheel was calibrated in 1 meter increments by myself using a scope visual target (from 10m to 41m) (took me all freaking day to do). Scope is an Althlon Argos BTR 6-24×50.

13. Bubble level on scope checked before every shot. Scope, bubble, and barrel are inline and re-verified using a string and electric level.

14. 11 pellets were shot into the pool at work and retrieved. Pellets were inspected for irregular grooves, damage, etc. I *think* they look fine.

Here are some photos of the crown:

The first couple are after shooting around 400 pellets today.

And then after doing some cleaning. The only thing I did differently with this cleaning is that I ever-so-carefully ran a nylon brush up and down the barrel twice. I did not run the brush into the barrel far enough to reach the breach o-ring.


Today, my chronograph arrived, so I put the gun through the paces. I also wanted to know when the gun would fall off the regulator. I used the JSB’s mentioned above. Is the gun shooting too hot for the JSB’s?


Now that the chronograph has arrived, I can start my big pellet experiment. Using the JSB’s from above, I first Yrrah rolled them and divided them up into groups. Those groups were then subdivided by head size using a PelletGauge. Then, those groups were further divided by weight. I will be shooting groups of approximately 5 provided there are enough pellets in each group.

Could my issue simply be that the gun has a specific requirement for a pellet, which I have yet to discover? Or, am I just expecting too much? After all, the Vulcan isn’t a competition rifle? Or is it…?

Again, sorry this is so long-winded. I hope I’ve given enough information. I really want this to be a pellet-on-pellet gun.

Cheers!

Airgun Technology

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Is that the 5-20×50 scope? Their web site states that it parallax focuses down to 35 yds if that’s the same scope. I would really like something that focuses down to around 9 meters.

I actually shoot this gun more than my cricket because of the great optics

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I actually shoot this gun more than my cricket because of the great optics

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Swfa HD will only parallax down to 50 yards but I dial power down so no issues for me. Been using it for a couple years now. If you can find a used one on yellow go for it. It’s perfect for those low light situations if you get what I mean.

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Swfa HD will only parallax down to 50 yards but I dial power down so no issues for me. Been using it for a couple years now. If you can find a used one on yellow go for it. It’s perfect for those low light situations if you get what I mean.

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Thanks bud. This is frustrating. Speaking of thread-lock, I’m starting to think that I’ve got enough in my gun now that I could pretty much do away with anything that resembles a screw or bolt. The thread-lock should hold everything together. :rofl:

Before buying the Athlon scope, I was looking at the MTC Viper Pro. Being a turret clicker myself, the scope looks intriguing. Anyone have an opinion about the scope?

Yep, you must have dealt with a dimwit at UPS.

I feel for you and the probable scope issue. Really frustrating when a scope isn’t working correctly. I just had a live target that simply would not go down after five shots. I could not understand how I could be missing so badly because I routinely hit in one shot. The ducking instead of bolting of the target clued me in that my shots were too high. Aimed intentionally too low and connected. Later discovered the main lens of my night vision rig had partially unscrewed from its mount. The lens droop was elevating my shots by about 2 inches. Misbehaving optics makes a perfectly functioning Vulcan -useless.

Threadlocked now.

Well, it’s looking like I am running out of choices rapidly, and may end up with a SFP scope…

I went to UPS to mail the scope back today and was told that they “will not ship guns, gun parts, or anything that can be attached to a gun”. After researching their policy, it’s clear that their employees do not understand the company policies:

From the UPS web site

quote :

UPS accepts firearm parts for shipment, provided the part is not a “firearm” as defined under federal law; the contents of the package cannot be assembled to form a firearm; and the package otherwise complies with federal, state, and local law. (Note: Receivers or frames of a firearm and firearm mufflers/silencers (also referred to as suppressors) are considered “firearms” and are accepted for transportation only if shipped in accordance with UPS’s requirements for shipping firearms.)

So, there was another 40 minutes wasted in drive time.

One of mine is a 10X and the other one is a 12X, both go down to 10 yards and I know you want a FFP scope. These are not FFP scopes but are awesome scopes for the $$$$$

kris: I could easily modify my benchrest to accommodate the gun without a stock. Good idea, sir!

Zonk: The only reason I crossed SWFA off the list is because it won’t focus down to less than 35 yards. I’m rethinking the PA scope. Apparently it’s made in China.

quote hsnmz:

Get a SWFA scope and live happily ever after 🙂

I have two SWFA scopes and love both of them….

scope off, stock off, wrap her into towel or between rubber liners, clamp her into bench vice, rock solid bench ideally shoot the furthest you can get this way and test pellets. if it wont group send it back.
the power outpout seems fine, that kind of variation will not result in such POI shifts.

It’s on my “look at” list. I’m running out of steam tonight, so I may have to continue the search tomorrow.

*Edit* I kept looking because I’m angry and can’t sleep.

Scopes I’ve looked at so far:

NO:Weaver Tactical 4-20×50, can’t find info regarding minimum parallax focus distance. Discontinued model.
NO:Vortex Viper et al, minimum parallax for any scope is 25 yards.
NO:Hawke Sidewinder, SFP scope.
NO: SWFA Tactical, 5-20×50, minimum parallax 35 yards.
NO: MTC Viper Pro, 5-30×50, MOA turret and SFP scope.

Interesting and a maybe:Primary Arms 6-24×50 with DEKA MIL reticle, parallax down to 6.9 meters, IR, 30mm tube, open turrets.

The problem is that the PA scope is out of stock everywhere. Apparently it is a brand new model this year, and I can’t find any reviews on it at all. What to do…what to do?

Get a SWFA scope and live happily ever after 🙂

That’s crazy! I was literally just about to look up PA scopes!

I removed the Athlon scope tonight, and will be shipping it back tomorrow. To be honest, I am considering just selling the replacement they are sending me and getting some quality glass. I’m tired of futzing around, and just want to shoot my gun. Product problems and shipment delays have been seriously holding me up.

What I’m looking for in a scope:

6-24×50 (or thereabouts)
FFP
Open-turrets
MIL/MRAD
IR (but not really necessary)
Parallax focus down to 9 meters (10 yards)

I might be looking for a unicorn…

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