Tuned condor shotstring
Tuned a condor the other day. Here’s a shotstring from 180bars down.
981.3
989.5
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984.3
999.0
1003.3
991.5
1012.8
1010.8
1018.0
1016.7
1020.0
1015.1
1019.0
1016.1
1020.7
1019.0
1015.1
1016.1
1014.8
1013.1
1012.1
1009.8
1010.2
1010.2
1004.9
1005.2
1001.6
997.0
991.8
993.4
990.2
990.8
983.3
985.9
981.0
982.6
981.3
976.1
973.1
970.8
What do you think?
Regards,
Marc
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keep us informed 😉
Hammer spring too heavy, soft shots without changing out hammer and hammer spring….. seems like Marc has better results just by tuning.
just info gathered here fellas trying to sort out getting their US made valves to work.
now that you mention it noone has published any shot strings from them yet?? curious….
I have published strings from Blods valve. VERY CONSISTANT AND AS MUCH POWER AS YOU WANT!! (within reason
😉 )
I have stated my theories on why the guys are having problems with the spring. TAKE THE FUCKIN’ POS POWERWHEEL OUT AND USE SPACERS 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄
That powerwheel is massively over compressing the spring.
Leupy has a spring setup that allows you to keep the powerwheel and it just for those that want to keep the powerwheel. I am ordering the setup tomorrow just to see if it works.
30 fpe from a 12″ barrel is crackin’ 😀
I use a stock spring in mine but a heavier hammer (105 grams) and get 30 fpe (which was my target) from a 12″ barrel no problem.
Fantastic results ! The valve is my last frontier for improvement … after seeing numbers like yours I need to get working on that !
Great stuff ! 😀
Thats the nice thing about a blod valve. It DOESN’T need extreme force to open it 🙄
Sure, if you pump the bottle up to 3000psi ‘cos you wanna shoot slugs for 100fpe, it needs some fair whack like any other, but in .22 and .25, you can achieve 1000fps with 31 grains with a 2500psi fill REAL EASY..
6mm stem 4,2mm hole the stem tapers to a 4mm piece where the poppet rests. Angled ports.
I’ll try and make a picture somtime soon.
Cheers,
Marc
I’m guessing that’d be the Condor Hi-Flow then? Effective but fragile, or so I’ve heard. Easy to crumple the side-wall of the stem when securing the tophat. Man needs a ROBUST valve on his shootin’ iron! 😆
Mine’s stock, I have no problems.
I agree with walther. The blodknob valve although very nicely machined is pretty overkill for most applications. You don’t need heavy hammers and heavy springs to get a .25 to 950fps. To much movement in the rifle and your bashing the valve.
I am a fan for using the right tools for the job. Why would one use a huge surface area that the valve seals when one resticts it later on to say 4mm.
Opening a valve is pretty much all about surface area. The smaller it is the easier it is to open. If you want a 9mm you need a large valve. Than Blods valve is super! But for normal ag stuff My oppinion is it is overkill!
Not intended on bashing. I only offer my mods to a select few becouse I don;t have the capacity nor the time to do large runs! Blodnob and brad offer it to a whide range of people, and I respec t them for that! It’s just not my cup of tea!
Chears Marc
What does one need to get a .25 to 950fps then? I’m all ears. 😉
Give it a rest Mam!
I agree with walther. The blodknob valve although very nicely machined is pretty overkill for most applications. You don’t need heavy hammers and heavy springs to get a .25 to 950fps. To much movement in the rifle and your bashing the valve.
I am a fan for using the right tools for the job. Why would one use a huge surface area that the valve seals when one resticts it later on to say 4mm.
Opening a valve is pretty much all about surface area. The smaller it is the easier it is to open. If you want a 9mm you need a large valve. Than Blods valve is super! But for normal ag stuff My oppinion is it is overkill!
Not intended on bashing. I only offer my mods to a select few becouse I don;t have the capacity nor the time to do large runs! Blodnob and brad offer it to a whide range of people, and I respec t them for that! It’s just not my cup of tea!
Chears Marc
Sheesh Jeff. Easy man easy.
I mean your setup beats the Blodnob setup with the trouble they are having making them open 🙂
What trouble are they having? Do you have a link?
Hammer spring too heavy, soft shots without changing out hammer and hammer spring….. seems like Marc has better results just by tuning.
just info gathered here fellas trying to sort out getting their US made valves to work.
now that you mention it noone has published any shot strings from them yet?? curious….
Walter…You are so full of it, I bet your eyes are brown….
Just another pointless post
What do you call this….?
Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:12 pm Post subject:
After adjusting the tophat, I filled to 3000psi and started to shoot a string.
1- 976.1 43gr EJ Pointed PW=0
2- 975.3
3- 969.9
4- 955.3
5- 958.3
6- 953.6
7- 947.9
8- 935.5 Thought I noticed it getting louder at this point.
9- 926.6 Loud POP, and very noticeable blast of air on my face.
10- 915.7 Anothe POP, and blast of air.
And this?
Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:16 pm
I shot this valve with the SS today.
12″ .22 barrel, PW=0, standard condor spring and Tony 75gm 1pc hammer.
JSB 18gr.
1-540
2-541
3-540
4-540
5-538
cranked PW to 4
6-666
7-672
8-673
cranked to 8
9-775
10- 781
11- 783
12- 779
cranked to 12 (max preload)
13- 880
14- 902
15- 904
16- 899
17- 898
18- 901
19- 900
20- 902
And this
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:47 am
Here’s my string. 3000psi 75g hammer with condor wt 90g total
pw 10 stock talon spring 18″ .22 barrel top hat .205(from top of valve to shoulder)Kodiaks
955.85 3000 psi
955.17
950.82
968.63
967.16
969.17
985.50
965.38
971.03
965.77 2500 psi
982.54
977.07
957.44
964.84
962.08
976.91
956.15
973.53
970.80
963.38
965.46
960.40
961.39
946.95
949.70
944.52
947.03
942.24 1800psi
And this?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:01 pm
Here are the numbers
Thanx Lang, I got some work to do.
I am gonna try the pogo spring and see what happens, just got my chrony Fri., shot the other 😳
I will do a follow up post.
Later-
SAW
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just info gathered here fellas trying to sort out getting their US made valves to work.
now that you mention it noone has published any shot strings from them yet?? curious….
I have published strings from Blods valve. VERY CONSISTANT AND AS MUCH POWER AS YOU WANT!! (within reason
😉 )
I have stated my theories on why the guys are having problems with the spring. TAKE THE FUCKIN’ POS POWERWHEEL OUT AND USE SPACERS 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄
That powerwheel is massively over compressing the spring.
Leupy has a spring setup that allows you to keep the powerwheel and it just for those that want to keep the powerwheel. I am ordering the setup tomorrow just to see if it works.
If Leupy makes it for sale it will work for sure.
Say hello from the TAG here I for one miss him and his fine work on display. Report how it works okay?
Walter….