Cricket Video Regulator Disassembly, removal, and adjustment
For those AG’ers that like to fine tune the regulator for better shot to shot consistency at a given speed.
To adjust to higher regulated pressure you need to turn the black adjustment (seat) screw CCW so it will be further away from the regulator pistons,
so it will require more regulated air to shut the valve.
Ernest Rowe
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Robert,
Haven’t seen a LW barrel on the cricket, what I notice on the CZ barrel it has a tight in lead or choke about 1/2″ in length then lightly smooth through out then the final 1/2″ choke, on LW barrel light resistant then the final choke. there are no MFR markings.
Have lead lap and polish about 12 CZ barrels from .177 .22 and .25 they all have slight variations in how tight the 1st and 2nd choke, I’m assuming the 1st choke is to tightly seal and build pressure to boost start the pellet then gets choke again for accuracy.
Ernest Rowe
Hi Ernest,
I see you are doing a good job in tinkering the Cricket.
You’ve done some things I never thought of.
I have a question:
What is the difference between the CZ barrel and the LW barrel on the Cricket?
Have you seen both of them?
If possible, push a pellet through, then we can compare the differences.
It is the only way to recognize eigther one of them, there are no markings on the outside… (?)
Thanks!
Regards, Robert
Mine set at 880fps. just make sure you have a crony, you will see the bell curve of the FPS when adjusting the HST. if you cant go any higher fps with the HST, adjust the reg 1/3 tune CCW.
Ernest
Thanks. My standard is shooting in the high 820’s with JSB 18’s and I’d like to get it up a bit.
Yes, but has it limitations. if spring is over compress and has no room to expand the fps will drop. here is a photo of a shorter stronger spring I been testing 50.00mm long rate of 30, this spring is more consistent and get 8 more shot per fill—>being short it doesn’t have that much preload on the valve so it doesn’t reopen that much. next test is to order a shorter stronger spring then this one. I want to test a 44.00 long spring rate of 47. the key is to have a short spring stronger enough to have no preload at all, to enable the hammer to spring back some to loss energy so it don’t reopen the valve. testing will SEE.
original spring was 56.00mm long.
Ernest
So what is the general rule to increase fps is CCW on the regulator and CW on the spring tension ❓
I’m comparing a Cricket Standard w/18″ barrel in 177 to an EdGun Standard w/18″ barrel in 177….
Cricket= 90 shots (10.34 grain @ 890fps).
EdGun=150+ shots (10.34 grain @ 890fps).
I fill and shoot. No messing with anything except to get the velocities both at 890fps.
Zoco, my tank was full at 4500psi when I filled my Cricket, it went up to the what looks to be 250bar on your gauge plus one mark. My color gauge is different than that one, my yellow section is the same size at the red section (that yellow is twice as big as mine).
Somehow I don’t think 50bar is going to get me 100 more shots… 😀
The only way that a cricket can get close to an Edgun shot count is to install a hammer de bouncing device, I’m designing one right now—-Not 
Ernest
A hammer debounce device on the Cricket should bring about dramatic improvement in the shot count department. With an already consistent shot string, that should be an excellent combination.
Edgun’s airtube is made of steel now ???? 😯 😯 😯
This is news to me !!!! Are you sure about that ? 🙄 😀
In my guns the capacity of the Cricket is 280 cc as opposed to the R3 holding 289 cc. Not much of a difference. I don’t think that has changed much…….. 😉
I need my new R3M fast…….
ED ????
It’s the newer valve with the new style bolt. It came set from Ed pushing the 10.34 grain 177 pellets at 1100fps+. I had to shorten the hammer spring by 1/8″ to get the velocity down to 890fps and not unscrew the HST adjuster to the point where there were no threads left. So with a little reg tuning I bet I might get 20-50 more shots…
The shot count on the Ed is amazing but it doesn’t compare with my USFT, it gets 100 shots from 1600-1300psi. 😯 The air tube is probably twice as big though!!
I suspect that since the EdGun airtube is steel and the Cricket airtube is aluminum that the EdGun airtube is larger in capacity.
The Cricket is far more consistent though.
I have four fantastic rifles which leave me in a new kind of dilemma these days.
Which one do I shoot??? 😆
It will be interesting to see how your shot counts compare with the new R3 and the older R3. 😀
…ErnestWhat Daystate calls the “Harper technonolgy” ??? 😉
Syn, I need to digest your numbers a little. Something does not add up in my old rusty brain…… 😳
I’ve run numerous tests on my cal.22 std. Cricket and Matadors. I’ve never been getting twice as many shots from my Edguns given the same pressure start and finish. Yes, I have been getting a lot more shots from the Matador but NEVER even close to double the amount. That said, I have the old type R3 and Ed has confirmed the new ones have a better valve system which may improve the Matador shotcount…
Still I am surprised, but that’s not the first time………. 🙄
Cheers
Trygve in Oslo
Do you think anything could be gained by turning down the reg and raising the hammer spring tension or perhaps the other way around? I was also thinking that if the chamber between the reg and the valve was reduced it may conserve some air. 😕
I’m comparing a Cricket Standard w/18″ barrel in 177 to an EdGun Standard w/18″ barrel in 177….
Cricket= 90 shots (10.34 grain @ 890fps).
EdGun=150+ shots (10.34 grain @ 890fps).
I fill and shoot. No messing with anything except to get the velocities both at 890fps.
Zoco, my tank was full at 4500psi when I filled my Cricket, it went up to the what looks to be 250bar on your gauge plus one mark. My color gauge is different than that one, my yellow section is the same size at the red section (that yellow is twice as big as mine).
Somehow I don’t think 50bar is going to get me 100 more shots… 😀
The only way that a cricket can get close to an Edgun shot count is to install a hammer de bouncing device, I’m designing one right now—-Not
Ernest
Just to be even more clear. Here is a photo of my gauge. When I filled it for the string the needle was on the other side of the green/yellow split. 😉
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EdGun 200bar to 80bar 150+ shots. 150 shots in 120bar.
Cricket 260bar to 100bar 90 shots. 90 shots in 160bar.
Is that clear enough? :8:
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Hi Ernest,
According to my information the first (rusian made) crickets were mounted with an CZ.
Then selling went well and there were not enough barrels to support.
They bought some at LW to keep production going, but the CZ were still coming in every once in a while.
Right now nobody really knows what the status is,
accept Kalibr.
(source: http://www.luchtbuks.net/index.php?showtopic=80821 post number 10 and yep, this is dutch)
It might be intresting to take a look at accuracy and push-tru pellets.
Maybe someone else knows more about it?
Maybe there is a database somewhere with serial numbers and barrel type/brand…
IF I had a Cricket, I sure would like to know what kind of barrel I bought…. 🙂
Regards Robert