25 caliber string
I shot a string with my Condor while shooting JSB KIngs at 100 yards.
I shot off the hood of my Ford Explorer with a Caldwell range bag and used my fist under the pistol grip.
I shot with and without the Airhog and POI did not change. This was noteworthy because I had just drilled and tapped 6 holes in the two bushings and centered them, prior to that POI would change as much as 5 inches.
Power wheel was maxed out and Top hat was at .070.
Starting PSI was at 3000 PSI I shot 32 shots and then my Chrony started showing low battery and I quit. Ending pressure was 2250 PSI. Groups were averaging 1.5 inches.
Here is the string:
1-955 *** 17-975
2-959 *** 18-974
3-960 *** 19-969
4-964 *** 20-973
5-964 *** 21-972
6-967 *** 22-970
7-969 *** 23-969
8-965 *** 24-969
9-967 *** 25-969
10-968 *** 26-967
11-968 *** 27-966
12-969 *** 28-960
13-966 *** 29-961
14-971 *** 30-956
15-973 *** 31-962
16-970 *** 32-961
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5 more shots
Next group, worse
Switched to Kodiaks, because of being more accurate, maybe the gun is less accurate now. Was not too impressed.
Now this 2nd one is a 5 shot group with the 43’s, my shooting as you will notice seems to go right, later on I try different technigues to see if it is hold or the gun, I think it is a little of both.
Spent all day or afternoon shooting and the results are in both my gun and I suck, this gun since I have polished the barrel and cleaned the shit out of it is the pickyest thing to shoot now it is like my cat. Anyway I have some pics and the 1st is the 1st shots around 10 with the 43;s.
Yeah I forgot about the Benji’s. I think there are a few reports about them being pretty dang accurate.
You should try the Benjamin 28 grain domed pellets.
I bought 16 tins for Christmas.
They are the most accurate pellet in my recrowned barrel, 2nd goes to the Kings. Literally ragged hole groups every time until my tank pressure drops and the consistency goes to hell. I get a good 25 shots before the POI starts to drift downward at 50y.
I am averaging 1020fps, and they are grouping very very nicely. They are a bit longer than the Kings, but basically have the same profile. So far they are holding nice and tight out to at least 80 yards, the furthest Ive had opportunity to shoot them so far.
Unmodified new condor valve, standard spring and brass hammer (no delrin guides) I made from a bushing I bought at ACE. Its the most consistent hammer I ever tried.
Barrel is now 22.5″.
I cant remember the damn weight of it, but I posted a pic of it somewhere here.
Maw,
Don’t feel bad, when I first tried them after only shooting 30, they showed groups that I would have felt comfortable with shooting a cow elk at 100 yards thru the ribs with a good sitting postion,
Now I would feel comfortable shooting a coyote thu the ribs at 100, but I lowered the velocity.
But remember I have done in at least on 350 such animals in total and I posses what others would consider supernatural tracking ability.
One thing I must say, the other day I shot an animal at 30 yards with the 25 and Kings, with the 22 SS it would die like an elk with a 200 gain Nosler, I have done this several times, with the 25 it simply fell over dead, no twitch, no drama, just DOG!
DOG, Dead On Ground.
Best I ever did was 4 elk in 10 seconds with a 340 Weatherby 250 grain Nosler Partion bullets, 3 tags in the curtains which were either sex elk tags, 2 cows, one 4 point bull, one heart shot calf. 700 Remington, 6’s Enterprise stock, Douglas magna port barrel, Timney trigger, 3×9 Leupold, it weighed 6.5 pounds and the bolt wore a hole in my trigger finger, one hundred fifty yards. 5 shots.
It took all day to go 1/2 mile to camp with the quartered meat which weighed 750 lbs boned.
It has been fun being me.
Roachcreek
I have honestly never shot to 100 yards, the furthest I have ever shot my gun is 70-72 yards, the 43’s last I was shooting was at 40-45 yards, they are pointed and I am quite surprized you were getting anywhere near the target at 100 yrds. I will do a group tomarrow at 48 yrds. and post a pic. here for ya.
Maw,
Nothing like the impact of a full size pickup to stop game. 😆
What distance do you get those 2 inch groups at with the 43’s?
I was shooting them at 100 yards and had a cross wind of about 5 to 7 MPH to deal with, when I read the wind indicators as best I could, I was doing around 2 inches for four of five shots.
The Kings would do better than an inch at times for that same 4 of 5 shots. Always get a flyer.
God help you folks if I get all 5 in the group, I will post that fucker everyday.
Like my dad used to kid me when I was a kid, “I am not tough son, but if I find someone I can whip, he better leave town because I will whip him every day.”
Roachcreek
I’ve never shot any Kings yet, but when I stock up again I’ll have to get about 15 tins of them, everyone seems to shoot best with em. I was shooting some 43’s today, as far as my gun they do not shoot the best by far, I can ussaully get a 2 inch group though and that is good for me and middle size game like the Javelina, hit another the other night with the 72 pick-up.
KryTech is what you’re thinking of. I bought some a while ago. Smells good! I don’t even use lube anymore though as I found my gun less accurate with the lubed pellets. Also the EJ’s come lubed. You may want to wash them in dish soap and fire some more to get their lead worked in :nono: 😆
Try using a quarter to push in the pellet. I started using that technique with the surefires cause I had that same issue as you with them going in sideways and getting all cut up. Then they just slid around until they hit the choke. Deff gave diff velocities. What I do is get the pellet started in the barrel and get it straight then wam it in their with a quarter. Get’s it there straight and nice and flush with the end of the barrel. Plus saves the thumb on those long shoots! Yeah Kings are the most accurate for me too. A bit more so than the Kod’s but Kod’s are pretty good. Same with SureFires. The EJ’s come in last for me but for medium-large game they are accurate enough.
Another couple of factors here, and again I just got them yesterday, is the tite fit that the EJ’s are famous for, and the fact that these are longer still than the 22 caliber 32 grain ones we bitch about. I noticed that I had lots of them that went in crooked or had to be reinserted they were going in so crooked.
Perhaps some of Adams Astro Glide would help?
The other thing is I turned the velocity down after only about 25 shots, so those new pellets had not seasoned the bore yet.
Perhaps I should try lubing them, all I have on hand to lube with now is Breakfree, so I will try and find some of that wax lube sold in bicycle shops Tri??
So far the Kings are the most accurate.
Roachcreek
Okay as long as I was being my normal dick head level 😆
And I was hoping to get 500 yard shots with mine 😮
I think the grouping issue could be 1, related to just the pellets flight at that speed and 2 there is way more kick! I was shooting the JSB’s at 940-970-940ish but for my 18″ barrel it became way more quiet and had better grouping at 900-930-900ish. There was noticeably less kick. Looks like with the settings you have for the 43 EJ’s you would be right on the money for Surefires? I tried the EJ’s and they grouped okay but man was the trajectory loopy. I could see them loop through the scope. I had better groups with SureFires than them. Shoot soon as I can get a 2nd tank and valve I can get back to the 100+fpe dream lol 🙂
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2 different hold positions, 1 light hold on handle both hands somewhat tight, 2 left hand on bi-pod leg tight push against shoulder, raise the point of impact and shifted towards the left.
