AGN ( The FX promoter Forum ) arr deleting post Again and again
I was looking through some post the other night on AGN (AoA-Nation) when I found a post that was so unbelievable I knew it would be deleted by the “Great Wendt” and crew at AGN. Micheal Wendt has his marching orders from his boss to remove any post that might expose the truth. The entire AGN mission statement should read “to promote FX at all costs”. I must hand it to them at AGN and AoA, they have done an amazing job at creating a buzz that will sell guns while removing bad press through the use of heavy moderation. The AGN forum has molded itself after the Stasi, whereas the protection of the State is more important than the truth. When a new product arrives we all see the usual players come out with their “new guns” posing just like regular Joes buying a new gun. The posts are all driven in one direction: promotion of sales. I have no problem with a business doing its best to be successful but to control a forum and pose as an information source and community of air-gunners is just wrong.
This OP purchased a gun, asked for a rush order, then was somehow blamed for the gun’s alleged poor performance because he asked for prompt shipping. OP reported to be a true lemon. He asked for his money back and instead was offered a return that included a 15% restocking fee. When he complained OP reported that he was now banned from purchasing from AoA again and given a refund.
I support the right of AoA to “fire” a customer, my issue is not with AoA or FX per se. My complaint is quite simply that AGN is a lie built upon a house of cards designed to push an agenda. I wonder how long this Democratic People’s Republic of AGN can continue? I wonder how many members over there are actually real customers. My only hope is that Abraham Lincoln’s quote proves to be correct, “You can fool all of the people some of time and some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all the people all of the time”.
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I heard they shoot pretty well if you load a bunch of them into a big canon. 😛
Impacts cratered? :angrymob:
Cyber, your right about people selling their FX and buying Vulcans. My buddy bought a Impact, had it for 6 months sold it to buy a Vulcan. He brought it over hoping I could get it to shoot but nothing I did made it shoot and better. My Vulcan would out shoot it at every distance.
I think in a nut shell , Michael over on AGN is just trying to support his family, Not all FX guns are bad , There has to be some good ones out there , But the percentage of bads ones is pretty dam high for a high end PCP gun maker.
To me AGN is almost a cult , 90% have drank the cool aid and do not know any better,
Not sure about this new barrel thing, But I really think its just smoke,and bullshit.
Please if you know better , Chime in here and tell me about it.
Mike
FX in Sweden have a warehouse full of faulty returns, mainly the Impact.
Several distributors in the UK are refusing to sell them anymore.
As for quality control, I don’t think they (FX) ever had any.
I have two friends who had the Impact and neither would group past 30 yards. Both got their £1600 refunded and bought Vulcan’s.
I ain’t no bought and paid for AGN or FX cat, but do have to admit FukoChan does act quite young and it reflects in his posts. I hate censorship as much as the next guy but it is business. Perhaps a bit shady at times, but it is what it is. Myself, I’ve learned to get other guns in the spotlight over there not to attempt to hurt AOA, AGN or even FX, but to give readers another path to travel should they so choose. This can only be done without losing your head or getting banned. I’m representing Taipan (not paid to do so, just love my AG) with that golf ball challenge. I state facts. I’m currently at the top of the leaderboard if they’d ever update their site at 250 yards with my Taipan.
Fuko, if you’ve read that thread which I have, does at times tend to ask immature questions and that thread did sort of “attack” AOA, to a point. Fuko also had some amount of legitimacy. But he crossed the line ever so slightly and I admit they almost had to pull the thread. Almost. I wish they did not, but Fuko didn’t do himself any good either. Hell, I was calling him out on his dropped scba tank he had for sale which may or may not have been deceiving on his part. But he did reach out to ME about his ordeal with the owner Michael of AGN deleting his thread to which I replied to him the following:
“I figurd you were young. I’m 41 now and it seems like yesterday I was alot like you. People don’t usually change as much as we think we do over time. I’m still a lot like myself back then. Age ain’t nothing but a number. Sort of. But yeah, I could tell you were younger. The way you view situations and even the world in general. Believe me, 21 is young. I guess I’m considered young at 41 but definitely your views do begin to change by this age. ESPECIALLY if you have kids.
I understand you’re defensive and I know from experience it’s because you’re young and want respect and feel you’ve been wronged by AOA, which you may have been. But in the end, yes, AGN does what it can to protect AOA, FX and many other of its sponsors. This website fetches Michael some decent coin. That’s the way it works. If he allows a member, in this case FukoChan to degrade AOA in any way that might harm sales or their reputation, you bet, Micheal will lose sponsors. Hence losing his paycheck.
I know how you feel but for now just forget it. Learn to play along to get along or else you’ll find yourself banned. On other forums not as censored as this place they make fun of this forum. But this place does have a lot of useful info and lots of community participation. That’s why I come here. I do admit I hate sponsored forums as they will ALWAYS be biased. But I still enjoy AGN for what it is. Just be happy you got your dough back. Usually it never happens that way and the customer is screwed. Enjoy and move on and be happy.
Get a Taipan or Vulcan or even Edgun. You’ll be glad you did.”
Sounds to me like quality control got laid off.
LOL Zonk, I sold Bobcats to help pay my collage,
I would go out and find the nest, Had to get them before there eyes opened up, Raise them with house cats to calm them down and sell them at about six weeks for 450 dollars, I found about 15 Bobcats a year, for three years before a game warden came knocking on my door.
Shut me down, Hell I did not know.
Also worked for a phone company named Speedy Fone, Installed phone jacks in bath rooms, That’s no shit.
Oh, back to AGN, Why does FX guns have so many problems????????
Mike
Mike you’ll go where I tell you to go! Now get back in your room and play with your Bobcat.
I was told about that post and could never find it.
I guess I know why now.
Looks like the OP was being pretty cool about the situation.
You cannot argue with screen shots…That’s a shame.
Is it that rampant over there?
Tony
Wow, Yea I understand, Its like the info commercials that have a slicer dicer that does it all for just 19.95
and you buy it and its a shit pile,
I have had people tell me that I need to stop dealing with the east block air guns and buy a quality FX gun,
This guy had never had anything but FX guns,
I can not post on AGN , But I do read some things there , I just like to read, and here about PCP guns,
There are people that have been in the air guns a long time , There over there posting , But they do not own an FX gun?
But they have learned to talk about there springers , Hatsan, Just the lower guns, Not knocking the Hatsan , but you can not compare the Hatsan to the FX or your post will end pretty quick.
If they would just look around , That’s all the people on AGN , And under stand that FX is just a Info commercial ,
If Ted or Matt got lose from AOA and FX , I think AGN would almost disappear,
I really do not want to knock Sweden, But just look at the tax laws and labor laws,
Your paying there Tax’s and there Labor,
Sorry, Not me, To many problems in there product,
Now know where in here, did I say this gun is better than a FX,
But, I will buy a Hatsan before I buy a FX product.
And if your one of the ones that believe that Ted was given a OEM off the line Impact,
Your a real dumbass,.
I did pull a few over to this site and had them open there eyes a little,
Zonk pulled me over here from the Marauder site,
Mike
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