Attn: People with Custom Stocks from Michal Osyda….V2
:hoot:
I strongly suggest holding off on ordering, until I can report further developments.
My order arrived yesterday (Friday 10/21/17). I got quite a surprise…and it wasn’t shipping related.
I will explain more later! For now…patience. I want to give Michal every reasonable opportunity to respond to the email and pics I sent him yesterday. His customer support has been extremely courteous and timely up to now. Whatever happens, it will be informative and interesting about ordering stocks from Poland, and how well they stand behind their product.
Hoot:
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Lots of flaws in your statement birdie. But only going to point out a few.
The crack is clearly visible in the pics sent by Osyda before shipping, he did however not mention it.
He did, but still no mention of hairline crack.
I agree with X , as I have already said when a maker of a product shows you the quality of their product and you order that
product you should receive the product as shown without flaws , cracks , burrs , etc . When the maker sends you the product
that you ordered and says by the way it has some flaws and I will reduce your cost , that is total Bullshit . If the maker knows
that the product has any kind of flaws they should not have sent it to the buyer . Instead the maker should have eaten the cost
of what they paid for the material used because it was substandard and should have made the product over again with new
material . The maker Osyda knew that the stock material had flaws and still tried to make money off of it anyway by saying he
would reduce his price because his product had flaws . Osyda is guilty in all respects in regard to sending Hoot this stock . Hoot ,
when he ordered his stock was expecting to get a premium stock which he paid for and did not get in return what was paid for .
The maker is at fault and not the buyer even if Hoot tried to fix the problem himself . The stock should have never been sent
to the buyer in the condition it was in , in the first place . Shame on the Osyda who knew better .
FROM : THE BIRDMAN
I think Uncle Hoot should get a replacement or 50% off at least!
What kind of stock maker sending a know cracks stock, hair line or not. A CRACK is a CRACK.
Please update us Uncle Hoot!
Right – it may just cause him to raise his prices initially.
This will not put him out of business, much like the fiasco of the first Impact’s didn’t put FX out of business. The horrible mistake of putting korean barrels on the mutant Short didn’t put Taipan out of business. I would buy from him again.
A partial refund would be an appropriate remediation at this point IMO. Hoot: got bent over the log on this one. $hit happens. Michal isn’t Boyd’s. He is very low volume and custom. A few bad stocks in a short time can put him out of business or in the hole. Here in the US a similar walnut stock can and does go for over $600-700 USD or more.
Most of us were lucky.
Here is the PRod custom Corcoran stock on AOA. For a pistol. :suprisedn:
Benjamin Marauder Pistol Premium Carbine Stock
Ambidextrous Thumbhole Design with Profile Cut-Out For Added Weight Savings. Includes White Line Spacers and Grip Cap.
Replaces factory grip and fore-end. Available in Ambidextrous Version.
Action not included.
$695.00
I’m glad you fixed the stock to your satisfactions Hoot. Like most others, you’re entitled to be pissed given your situation but like you originally said:
You contacted the guy on Friday/Saturday depending on his time zone. From what I can tell, he responded on Sunday. That’s pretty acceptable however you already took it upon yourself to repair the stock yourself with a dremel.
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I have hopes he will replace the stock…but I’m not holding my breath on that.
You basically made up your mind that you were going to fix the stock YOURSELF less than 24 hours after you started this thread. You can’t “hope he will replace” it after taking a dremel to it. That defies logic! Ask the man for a partial refund for your troubles that you’re entitled to but next time have some more patience if you want/expect a replacement.
Good judgement is the result of experience and experience the result of bad judgement.
Maybe Hoot: should have made sure he gave Osyda the right measurements. As already posted on this site the mutant shorty has at least two different versions. They have different barrel lengths. When I ordered a stock from him I wanted to make sure it was done right, not just trust some Guy making a stock in his garage. So he asked Me to give him the measurements, where the stock screw was located etc. The stock was tight and I sanded it down a Little because I thought it was too tight and that’s it. You can see my stock here:
tbear , seems like you have a hard-on against Hoot , what the fuck is your problem ? Regardless that Hoot did what he thought was
best to do with his stock as it came to him you are missing the big picture here . Hoot paid $330.00 for a premium wood stock . Osyda
paid U.S $50.00 for that piece of wood that really should have not been used to make his stock , but Osyda decided to use it because
he didn’t want to lose the money he paid for it knowing that the piece of wood had flaws which he later admitted to passing unto the
buyer . He said that the wood had worm holes and said nothing about the cracks in the wood and the stock was miss cut and would not
properly fit the gun that it was made for . If this stock was made for your gun and you paid $330.00 for it and it came to you in the same
condition that Hoot received it in , a stock custom made to fit perfectly as you would expect it to fit and it did not only fit but also had
all of the same flaws that Hoot encountered , I wonder what your reaction would have been ? Osyda is not a novice stock maker , he
knows the quality of wood and knows how to make stocks . He fucked-up and is solely to blame for his poor judgement in this matter .
Osyda should have been willing to have replace the stock , it was his poor workmanship and error on the stock that he sent to Hoot .
Now before your dick gets hard and you want to blast me , first why not ask a professional like Knife what he thinks of the stock that
Hoot got and his opinion on the flaws of the material used . Being a professional knife maker I’m 100% sure that Knife would not have
sold to any buyer a product that was either miss cut or had flaws in the material used .
:rofl:
Can we have a before and after pic
I got it fixed with Elmers Carpenters Stainable Wood Filler. Dried hard as a rock and absorbed the stain I applied. No more problem.
The crack turned out to be mostly a surface crack and didn’t go too deep.
Hoot:
Good. Now leave Michal the fuck alone and delete this thread at once.
:hoot:
I got it fixed with Elmers Carpenters Stainable Wood Filler. Dried hard as a rock and absorbed the stain I applied. No more problem.
The crack turned out to be mostly a surface crack and didn’t go too deep.
Hoot:
I guess the stock may fly apart at the crack if you ever take the butt plate off. Where is Sir Ville on this?
Maybe it was made on one of those Polish holidays they love to drink during? Have you seen the pubs over there?
Humor is the best medicine? 😛
Hey Hoot:
I have repaired larger cracks than yours in the past by squeezing PVA glue into them and sanding over them while still wet. It may take 3 or 4 applications letting it dry between attempts as it shrinks back but the wood dust will blend into the PVA in the cracks making them almost invisible once re-oiled. Im not sure how well it will work if his oil has already got soaked in there but I you are refinishing it give it a go.
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As a side sustaining business now, I have/own/run a single person operation and being a woodworker/craftsman most of my life I’d will never have sent my work out into public view/circulation knowingly with its flawed condition(s), it’s just bad shits to do so to oneself.
All my instruments are flawlessly built to the naked eye can see with a lifetime warrantee.
I process (gathering/cutting/veneering and drying) most of the instrument grade Koa myself, just the cutting/milling alone is an occupation in itself and most builders don’t like and have anytime or interest in being a sawyer too.
In the many hundreds that I’ve built/sold over the 17 years in business, I’m very prideful in saying that till this date I had no returns or failures within my craftsmanship !
Sorry, Japan sale only ……… thanks for l@@king.
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