big-bore springers?
Make a long story short http://www.airgunadvice.net/viewtopic.php?t=15334 caught this post from a newbie asking about .25 cal HW80.
Well I had to nicely tell him not be silly. Just because the manufacturer is putting a larger barrel on a 17 cal power plant does not mean it is right. I tried to explain it.
Next thing you know the usual butt-heads come in with their 2 cents and their stories about 100 yard shooting with HW50s 😀
And we wonder why they sell us smooth twist barrels?
I thought we are supposed to teach people the right airgun principles.
You try to explain something to people that bigger caliber is sure is good provided you have that muzzle energy behind it.
I don’t get it… but I think airgun forums should be informative with the right information that teach people good, basic principles of airgunning and caliber selection.
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😆 some of you dudes just need to unload your load… I suggest you get some women..
I want one of these converted to a springer…. 75 calibers of hurt!!!! 😯 😆
The good ole “Brown Bess”!!
Nice grouping!! (smooth bore barrel…. )
Note: The little WOK DICK looking items are powder/ball cartridges…. ready to be torn open and the powder is poured down the barrel, then the paper, then push the paper and ball down with the rammer.
In combat fast load mode, it would be tear open, pour in powder (most of it), drop the paper and drop in the ball, thump the butt on the ground to seat the ball, aim and fire!!! 3-4 shots per minute with the first method, 5-6 with the 2nd!!!!
( I’d use a reproduction of course…. real ones are a bit spendy….) 😆 😆 😆
Ok, maybe HPA would be the way to go… comments??? 😆
🙂 🙂 …. Damn i luv this forum…freedom of speech ROCKS… oh and BTW EVERYONES wrong but me just ask me 😆 I am gonna make me a .50 cal springer and lobin …25’s hurt bad… just let someone shot ya with one … is it going fast enough for ya? just faning the flames please feel free to hit the ignore button….
i want it because i can
who really gives a shit what barrel is on my springer?
your not shooting it are you? i am not asking you advice on how to tune it am i?
and the smooth twist barrel??
from what i have seem for a polished tube alot of people get some pretty good accuracy with them
you are a dumb ass man if you don’t care about principles. Would you pull a boat with a 4 cylinder car?
Some of those “reviewers” are dealer shills, that sell their magic rifles after they are done with a review to get another free gun.
yes i would pull a boat with a 4 cyl car, i had a 10 foot alum duck boat ive pulled with a 4 cyl for year dick
and Does it hurt you that I want to shoot a heavy 25 with a huge arc? too fucking bad
if i want power i will leave the toy airguns at home and break out my real guns, my 9mm , my 10 mm my 460 SW my 3006, my 223 and my many shot guns
so do us all a favor and shut the fuck up, you are an annoying piece of shit. you talk bad about others because they dont agree with what you say or what you shoot
I am not a reviewer , I dont get anything for free, I work my ass of for the things I buy my self , my kids and my wife.
You act like your shit doesnt stink I bet you would not say shit like that to someones face now would you?
English would be my third Language! How many languages can you speak or know of?
I don’t even try to read the bullshit you write man. You think shooting .25 cal 20 fpe springers is cool do it.
But advising people on that is crazy…. and dead wrong.
Wasn’t supposed to be funny fucktard. Is english your second language or something? 😕
So if they are enjoying their air gun and you don’t think it has enough power, how exactly are you going to help them?
Oh and PLEASE quote crowpopper where he claimed his 25 was “fast” as you stated?
How can you force your help on anyone when you don’t even acknowledge what they say?
The Nanny State was created by people just like you trying to tell everyone what to do and what not to do.
Can you even read? 😯
If someone likes their rifle who the hell are you to tell them it’s wrong?
Get a clue dude, some people are happy and don’t need your unsolicited “help”.
G’night troll.
Aha me bad people 🙂 boring too, who needs good basics..
You are right in a way .25 cal 12fpe springer shooters make this world funny.
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Your pretty stupid, reread my posts, I don’t shoot shit slow, don’t like it. Don’t know where you get this stuff you claim people say, don’t have a HW80, never recommended it either…
In fact, I agreed with you retard.
Let people do what makes them happy, someone might actually listen to your drivel if you do.
Repeating? I’m glad to have gotten through your thick skull finally, your an ass, take your bullshit elsewhere dipshit, people like you make the world suck.
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this is my original reply to him dude, before some dhead started flipping out 🙂
Those springers are good for .177 only.. Even the .22 cal is best suited for the pcp’s. Especially if you are in the UK and dealing with 12fpe limits. Always take a .177 at those speeds.
If you want a FAC .22 springer get an HW90, Gamo1250, or Theoben Eliminator. But HW90 would be the the logical choice for the .22 break barrel price wise. You can always pump that air spring to a little more and gain some power if you like
But .25 HW80 that is just crazy, simply should not be offered in that caliber. Compressor size/cylinder volume, and piston stroke lenght is just simply not for that caliber. .25 cal not all FAC pcp can handle. Really those those that start from 50fpe do well. But really the 80 and 90 foot pounders shine in .25
you don’t have ta tell me about your problems 😆
I bet your all for The Nanny State and uber-regulation by power hungry impotent asshats like yourself where you get to tell everyone what they like and can and cannot do?
If not then your a hypocrite.
When and where did he say that was fast?!
Just because you like chocolate doesn’t mean that when someone likes vanilla they are wrong.
Perhaps that’s too subtle, let’s try this…
If someone enjoys shooting a pellet under speed who the FUCK cares what you think about it, it makes them happy what the fuck business of your to tell them it’s not right. It’s not like they are harming anyone or you…
Get over yourself for fucks sake! 🙄
There is a name for people like you, they are called “assholes”.
well it a good thing i dont give a flying fuck about your charts or how fast a 25 will go
i want it because i can
who really gives a shit what barrel is on my springer?
your not shooting it are you? i am not asking you advice on how to tune it am i?
and the smooth twist bbl??
from what i have seem for a polished tube alot of people get some pretty good accuracy with them
+1 on the barrel. It reminds me of Savage rifles… they have a great barrel, good trigger (accutrigger), and the stock is decent…. but the mag sucks and the bolt isn’t as smooth as a Ruger… but that doesn’t matter… down range you hit what you’re aiming at – just like a Condor/Talon. And you save enough money to buy a great scope and 200 rounds of ammo.
and it still would need to be tweaked, the so called “good pcp”
Probably the best priced finished pcp is the regulated HW100. I don’t know why have they decided to makes the barrels thinner on those just put а “shroud” that is just about useless like on AA guns.
The rest of them PCP/s > all need to be optimized.
So in a way be glad that there such a simple animal as the Talon/Condor at least they give us good barrels to start from and it is better to invest the funds into it, it will be a real shooter.
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speechless! 😆 all you need to do is chrony it next to .25 cal HW80 😆
But they sure need to start producing that baby on HPA in 30 cal. I would buy one over a Rogue any day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pqFyKh-rUI