EDgun Matador R3, caliber .30, single shot
Here is some information about new EDgun Matador, caliber .30.
1. Length — it became longer for about 50 mm. due to a new moderator (the same thing will be with the long one)
2. Weight — it became a little heavier due to the diameter of the barrel 14 mm instead of 12 as it was before, but not critically.
3. Moderator — new design, eccentric, diameter 38 mm, no thread on the case, just two O-rings.
4. Sound — VERY, VERY comfortable sound, to my opinion sounds quitter then .22, I can hear only the hammer.
5. Pellet — JSB .30 pellet, weight 2.90 grams (44 grain).
6. Speed of the pellet — with the standard regulator (set at 160 bar) — 270 m/sec (886 f/sec).
7. The energy for standard is 105 Joles (77.4 Ft-Lbf) .
8. Accuracy — about 20 mm (0.75 inch) at 50 meters (55 yards). Below you can see the shots to the bear can at 75 and 100 meters.
9. Barrel — made by Lothar Walther, especially for JSB .30, weight 2.9 grams (44 grain) according to my specification, choked, but very lightly.
10. Shot count for standard — 25 shots from 220 to 140 bar.
11. Volume of the reservoir — 270 cm3 (the after regulator space is bigger then at .22 and .25).
12. Length of the barrel for standard — 477 mm.
On October of 10th I went for hunting in the morning. EDgun Matador R3, standard, caliber .30, 44 grain JSB pellet, speed of the pellet 270 m/sec, one shot, distance about 50 meters. This bird:
Very tasty, by the way.
Here is the place where the pellet got in:
Here is the place where pellet went out:
No chances to survive for the bird such a size (about 6 kg.) A lot of blood on the ground. I am impressed…
At the same day I had 15 free minutes, bad mood and was in need to relax. Went for the nearest wood, took EDgun Matador R3, standard, .30 caliber. It was zeroed at 50 meters, the one I use this morning for hunting. I used Ballistic Calculator “Strelok”, made by Russian guy. I put a beer can at 75 meters and even didn’t tried to use paper to “zero” POI at this distance, just took out my IPhone, opened Strelok, changed to EDgun Matador .30, found that at 77 meters it will be second mildot from the cross and made 10 shots. Here is the result:
Then I made a picture of the can, put it vertical, moved back at 100 meters and shot another 5 shots. Here is the result:
There was a light wind from the right to left, about 2-3 m/sec, I didn’t made any calculations to the wind. Strelok told me that 100 meters will be half a mil down from the fourth mil dot at my scope. I put a fourth mildot to the top of the can and got all 5 shots down to the can.
I didn’t use any rests, tables or anything like that. I was sitting in my car, shot from the driver’s window. To my opinion not bad for such a position. The ballistic of the 44 grain JSB .30 pellets is equal to their other pellets so I don’t need to get used to new corrections by the mildot reticle.
I think I would change my Matador for hunting from .25 to .30 🙂
On October of 11th, just at 7:30 I got out home, took a car and went to woods. In 8:15 or something like that I saw a black grouse on the right side of the road. He saw me also, I stopped the car and watched him, taking R3 .30 ready to shoot, but as it was on the other side of the car I couldn’t shoot. The bird slowly moved to the bushes and directed to the thicket. I opened the door of the car, got out and moved back along the road taking the car between me and the bird. When I was about 50 meters out of the car, I took the right side of the road and moved to the place where I expected to find the bird, slowly. I reached the car, which was on the left on me and in few steps saw the silhouette in bushes, took the gun ready, but couldn’t see it in the scope through the branches. I was waiting about a minute or so, then the bird moved, I saw it in the scope through a lot of branched on bushes and shot. It moved quickly then fluttered for few second and that’s it. I loaded another pellet to the gun and moved closer to it. I found him dead.
I like this caliber as I doubt I could reach him with .22 through bushes. The pellet got in the very back side of him, penetrated through all his body and stuck somewhere near the neck. I was home at 9:30 after gutting it in the garage.
Today, on October 13th I decided to calculate how many shots will I have in standard Matador R3 in .30.
Here is the result.
Not bad, I think, 25 shots with average speed of 2.9 gram (44 grain) pellet at 270 m/sec (886 f/sec), from 220 bar to 140 bar. The average air consumption is 7.3 cm3 per one Jole of energy.
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Cool, then who else got email from Tony, or just 2 for now. Guys check your email
If you are on waiting list for Edgun .30 cal
Ta
Now, it just awaiting time for Edgun .30 cal long to arrive
PS. Waiting is killing me
Ta
I sent my payment in full as well. For R3 30 Long.
I just email from Tony, and I already send out my check of full payment
Now, it just awaiting time for Edgun .30 cal long to arrive
PS. Waiting is killing me
Ta
What is the split of standard vs long 30 cal that will make it to the USA? How many of the 20 or so.
There are only 20 guns totally, 10 standards and 10 long ones. I instructed Tony that these guns are to be set to the waiting list only after full prepayment. The point is quite simple — there are only 20 of them, guys from other countries want them too, so I need money to be sure they will not stay at Tony, waiting for the buyer. So, everything is simple — those who will pay now will get them.
I think that wasn’t barrel, that was me. There is some issues in every gun to shoot accurate. I mean the way you hold it, I got used to its energy, and everything turned to be very good 🙂
thank you Ed! this is great news. I cant wait to get my hand on one of the .30 Matadors when they come in. :4:
Ed,
What is the split of standard vs long 30 cal that will make it to the USA? How many of the 20 or so.
I think that wasn’t barrel, that was me. There is some issues in every gun to shoot accurate. I mean the way you hold it, I got used to its energy, and everything turned to be very good 🙂
great news! Did the problem with barrel getting dirty quickly go away?
Sorry for being out for a while. So I decided that 265 m/sec (870 f/sec) is good for standard length Matador. It gives me with 2.9 gram pellet 101 Joles (74 Ft-lbf) energy with predictable trajectory. I got 20 shots from standard from 200 bar down to 140 bar. All 20 pellets hit the same point at the target at 50 meters. Accuracy is quite good.
For long version it is now 275 m/sec (902 f/sec) with 109 Joles (80 Ft-lbf) of energy. The accuracy is the same. The air consumption is the same — about 25-30 shot per fill. I will work a little bit trying to get more power at the long one, just for curiosity. But at this point both standard and long ones work quite good to my opinion. I plan to make 20 guns for Western market and deliver them in October, including USA. Hope that those who would buy them will find them quite interested from the point of view accuracy, power, sound level and air consumption.
Ed
Any news Ed?
This is correct and we should help him by suggestions.
I totally agree with you, Ed, always had his own ideas and he didn’t take any idea from anyone. yo are correct.
H 😯 😯 T, you are lucky man that have dears just near of your backyards, LOL, I envy you 😯 😯 😯
again you are correct what happen to our Young Goat? 
hope he will be okay……
Regards,
Kindly ‘Ol Uncle Hoot[/quote]
Guys, too many questions….
I suspect the barrel fouling is due to rough rifling edges on the new barrel, or too tight a rifling twist for the barrel length. Also, might be pellets a bit too large.
It will take time to work out these matters. Meanwhile we can possibly help more with suggestions than questions.
The 30 caliber Edgun is a leap forward in Ed’s world. Remember he doesn’t copy other guns… other guns copy him! So he will be solving problems in his own way, and in his own time.
We need to be excited he is moving forward on this project. A whole new world of airgun usage is being opened up to us with the advent of 30 caliber pcp equipment. Medium-sized game will now be possible to humanely hunt with an Edgun. With deer in my yard every day and night of the week, I find that exciting! Deer in Arkansas are fast approaching the same status as feral pigs! There are simply far too many of them for the population to remain healthy and avoid becoming a serious traffic hazard.
Finally, let’s not forget it wasn’t that long ago that Old Goat talked Ed into producing a 25 caliper for us.
Regards,
Kindly ‘Ol Uncle Hoot
Hi Ed,
Do you have any more updates on 30 cal? Did the dirty barrel condition improved?
Do you think that barrel will need to be polished to help with that?
Do you think the barrel got so dirty so quickly because of the 30 cal pellets or the barrel itself?
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Yeah, I got the email too but I have a slightly different take on this than probably most as I look at it from a business standpoint. I’m passing on the prepayment deal. Quite frankly, Tony is a nice guy and I don’t know Ed but the odds are that there could be delays based on past performance. Of course, I could be mistaken and these things could be delivered on time; in early November, “as per the manufacturer”.
If someone wants prepayment for a new model, then there should be incentive like 10% off or something. Why do they require full prepayment? Why not ask for 50% prepayment and the balance on delivery. 50% is a sufficient stake in a product to insure full payment upon delivery and if not, then there is sufficient deposit to cover any liquidated damages should there be any. Of course there won’t be any because these are the coveted Edguns in 30 cal!
Full prepayment from 20 of so buyers is advance profit or more money to fund additional manufacture. If you want my money for this venture or adventure, then I need some incentive. Others may jump on, but I’ll sit back and watch.
To quote, “I’d like to let you know that we’ll have .30 R3 single shot Standard and Long models in early November (as per the manufacturer)”. That’s the part that worries me “as per the manufacturer”.
If those who prepay get them on time and they are all up to snuff then Tony will be swamped with order requests where one would think that they would be happy to manufacture another batch. Like I said, I’ll sit back and watch the show.
I own 3 Edguns and love them. I’d like a 30 cal but not enough to prepay 2k. And, where and when will the .22 and/or .25 cal magazine models be ready? When will they offer the magazine upgrade for existing models? I think priorities are a little screwed up but hey, that’s my opinion right or wrong.
And that’s my three cents.