EdGun R3M USA October delivery date
I haven’t heard a thing and my finger nails are getting very short. Anyone have any news?
Thanks
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Still no movement on mine, UPS probably lost it already.
Are you kidding? Who wants to sling lead with that guy? All I know he’ll call me a lier, saki guzzling asian hick!
That shoulder recovery may put the fit on things. Slower music? :6:
Speaking of which, when are we getting tracking numbers for those O rings 😛 We’ll be stalking you next John.
you are ok in my book.
JP
Donny what are you thinking. u and MG could be slinging lead together!!!! you snooze you loose :3: :3:
OK, OK, OK. Your a very considerate guy considered all the MEAN jokes you left for other!!! 😈 😈 😈
you are ok in my book.
JP
He’s only 3 hrs away and I could’ve but I didn’t want to bother him anymore than we already do online. Knock knock, hey Tony you might know me as the funny guy donnyfl on the Talon forum. I am sorry I made some crude jokes about you but is it ok to come in go through all the guns that you have boxed up already. I spent $2k on this gun so I think I have the right to select the stock of my choice.” Yeah that wouldn’t go to well. Plus I like to ask 100x questions and that’ll delay his shipment to you guys. I am sure you don’t want that to happen 🙂
All jokes aside, Tony has been good to me.
West coast in Ca and Washington will be next Monday, 12/06….
Jp
Hey guys check your Tracking numbers, I see movement with my number 😀
What’s up Donnie, could not make that trip to Tonys place and knock on his door?
West coast in Ca and Washington will be next Monday, 12/06….
Jp
I am going to win it for Hemn, you know how much he loves HOot!
Wow Hemn is still in! The 12th here. :party:
You just made my day! I was going to give up checking the status since it’s getting late. But I just checked again and this is what it said:
Tuesday, 12/10/2013, By End of Day
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Just checked my tracking #s and my guns will be to me Wed!!! They have shipped my brothers!!!
I’ve found the best formula is a three fold consideration:
1) Consider the shooter’s skills, as some of us will never group 1″ at 100 yards. Accept your limits, your “personal best”, and use that as your base measurement of excellence.
2) Find the pcp you personally shoot best, (that’s generally based more on the style of rifle…long gun, bullpup, carbine. than the brand of the gun. For example, some individuals can’t shoot a bullpup because of no cheek weld. Also, remember a regulator is going to make a serious difference here in POI consistency. Ask any re-loader what difference a few grains of powder can make in accuracy! It’s the same with consistent psi per shot!
3) Then find the specific brand/weight pellet you group best, over time, in that gun. When you start to see repeatable group consistency…stop and stay with that pellet brand/weight. Don’t fall for the sales hype. Find what groups best for YOU, and don’t change anything after that. Trust me, that pellet, properly placed, will kill anything it hits in the right place.
That will be “your” magic combination. Once you find it, stick with it, and you can only get better as time goes by.
The more variables you shove into that threesome, the more difficulty you will have in arriving at what works best for “you”. Stick to basics. First rule is get good, really good, with practice. Don’t waste time sorting pellets. You’ll spend time sorting when you need to be shooting, practicing breath control, consistent trigger squeeze technique, barrel cant control, and consistent grip sites on your weapon.
To gain consistency over time in group size, practice, practice, practice. Eventually you will note your groups are getting tighter and tighter. Then it wasn’t equipment that got you there…it was you that got you there. You mastered your weapon! You did not let the weapon, and all it’s possible variations, confuse and master you!
As far as distances go…a good mil-dot scope will get you there. Zero your crosshairs at a specific range, I use 30 meters, then find out at what exact distance each mil-dot above your crosshairs will hit the ten ring. Set your “distance” targets at those exact ranges. Then practice, and practice some more. For variation, shoot each mil-dots specific distance target. You will be amazed at how quickly you can begin to judge distance doing this, especially if you use a known “reference item”, a life sized squirrel, or crow, silhouette, next to your paper bullseye target. It soon becomes automatic…a combination of muscle and visual memory from constant practice.
Never forget one thing: Accuracy is the child of Consistency!
It doesn’t have to be as complicated as we make it.
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I’d argue that the regulator/velocity part of rule 2 is somewhat of a misnomer.
I have been doing indoor accuracy testing, lots and lots and lots of it.
A pellet shooting at 875 and a pellet shooting at 855 will land in practically the same place (well within the given group accuracy for that rifle) at 50 yards (177 caliber, 10.34 grains, AA/JSB Heavies). You would think that velocity would have more of an affect on a pellet but I can state definitively that it does not. I’ve had a pellet at 875 hit exactly where a pellet at 855 hits and then a pellet going 875 hit 1″ away from the rest of the pellets going 875 landed within certain tins. Other times i’ve had all the pellets fall within a 0.31″ ctc group (ten shots) and some of the pellets are traveling 10-15fps slower/faster…
20 fps is only 2% of the average fps of 865 for any given ten shot group.
Furthermore, my unregulated USFT and my regulated EdGun/Cricket share the same shot to shot velocity jump (anywhere from 8-18 fps at a given HST setting/pellet velocity).
A good shooter can shoot an accurate gun well, a poor shooter can shoot an accurate gun well and the best shooter in the world is only as accurate as the rifle he is shooting…
If at random a pellet shoots to the right, left, up or down there is NO shooter EVER that can make that pellet hit the bullseye no matter how much practice they have with the rifle.
And before you go, but, but, but.
Find an indoor range and shoot at the 3/4 maximum range distance for a given caliber (45-55 yards for 177, 75-100 yards for 22 and 125-150 yards for 25, or roughly to where the pellet has a drop around 16″) and shoot through a chrony, ten shot groups, mark the tins, keep a shot log of each velocity for each shot (to get the average group velocity and to see if lower velocity shots open the group) and then map the group sizes and plot them in a spread sheet (use three different scopes while you are at it, keep track of the fill pressure and fill points for each group)… Your eyes will open like you just saw the light of God appear from the heavens.
You will know without a doubt if it’s the rifle or you when you get rid of the elements and shoot at distance.
At distance is IMPORTANT, my groups at 30 yards were consistently SMALL with 75% of all the tins of pellets I tested, at 50 yards the percentage of small groups was reduced to 25% of the 75%. In other words less than 20% of the 30+ tins of pellets I tested were accurate at 50 yards.
I even weighed pellets to the nearest 0.02 grains, didn’t make that much difference really.
It would appear that it all comes down to head sizes for that particular barrel. Granted if one were to have ALL the same head size small changes in weight or velocity might change the impact point of the pellets and open up the group.
Problem is that so far I have not found one pellet manufacturer that has good pellets that are consistent from tin to tin of the same batch numbers.
I get a shipment of pellets. Group them by batch number then label each tin A, B, C, D…. Or 1, 2, 3, 4…. Then keep track of which ten shot group was shot from which tin, shoot two groups from each tin. Then I go back another day and shoot two more groups from each tin. I keep track of everything except where each pellet lands on the target (If I had a high speed camera and the mount I would keep track of every pellet strike).
For FT matches I select the best set of tins from the indoor session just before the match. For the matches that really count I save the best tins from testing and shoot a few groups after saving enough pellets for the match and sight in. Sounds crazy right? Sure, but I do well. 😆