Filling The Tank
Newbie here,
No surprise with this question.
When installing the Adapter onto the Bottle, I see no means of (depressing) the Top Hat.
Is it correct to assume that the in-coming pressure depresses the Top Hat and allows for filling?
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Almost forgot, stop at the top and bottom stroke for just a second; Do not pump up and down fast or nothing will happen. Also, I had a pinhole leak in my gauge but you could hear the air excape. The missing o-ring I heard nothing.
Put soapy water on everything and see if there is a leak. Definatly do A not b. Make sure the rubber o-ring is in the grove in the adapter you are screwing your bottle into. I did the same thing and the o-ring was missing, and I did not know it was suppose to have one. Should only take 12 pumps till the dial moves, then 12 pumps per 100psi. The o-ring goes on the back of the adapter, and your tank seals up against it. Do not take off the top hat and stem, DO NOT DO NOT. I fill my tank every day with A.
put airforce adaptor on to pump.
screw tank with top hat attached onto airforce adaptor.
close bleed valve.
pump.
open bleed valve.
remove tank.
This assumes you have an airforce adaptor and a pump that it fits.
I watched the dvd as I wrote this. At no time did the top hat leave the tank.
You have a different kinda of valve. If I were to try and take my valve stem out, it would leak out all the air before I even got close to actually taking it out.
Learn something everyday, today’s lesson, never doubt a guy named Lang… 😉
I’m pretty sure I thought the same as you, and equally sure it was something I read here that taught me otherwise (could have been elsewhere).
You can lever it out with a screwdriver or coin etc, just be careful not to exert too much sideways pressure or you’ll probably deform the bore of the brass collar it sits in.
I have not and will not disassemble my valve so I have no idea how it actually works inside, had no idea you could take out the stem and still have it retain air, I have had the tophat all the way off to check the stem’s integrity so I can’t back anyone up… 😕
Learn something everyday, today’s lesson, never doubt a guy named Lang… 😉
If somehow managed to take the valve stem out with a full air fill, the valve stem will be launched into orbit!
The valve-stem sits in a little cup, that is itself sealed tight by a spring in a retainer. Whether the stem is there or not the cup is sealed by the spring. When the tophat is hit it drives the stem down, which drives the cup down against it’s spring and allows air to come up into the stem’s inlet ports.
Right now my fully charged bottle is sitting behind me, the tophat & stem are on the shelf beside me.
Look at me and do not divert your eyes. Ignore everyone else.
Do not remove your top hat and stem….Period.
Screw the adapter to tank. Close bleed valve. Pump, repeat a lot.
When you reach pressure. Open bleed valve and drain all air. Remove tank from adapter.
There you go tank filled
He said he did exactly that, gave it 100 pumps and saw no difference showing on the gauge.
Just to be clear, I did say I did exactly that (and it works). It was Spyder22 that is having trouble getting a tank filled.
My biggest issue is jonesing after longer barrels and shrouds and bigger bores . . . and not having much to shoot at. 🙂
The stem goes through the valve body and attaches to the valve seat. When the hammer hits the tophat the air goes around the valve seat and through the valve stem. And the only way of taking the valve stem out is by taking the valve off of the tank, if i am not mistaken. CAN SOMEBODY BACK ME UP HERE!!!
If somehow managed to take the valve stem out with a full air fill, the valve stem will be launched into orbit!
Eh? What you talkin’ about dude? 😆 The stem bears down on a spring-filled sealed retainer, and it’s that what seals the bottle. I’ve had my tophat & stem out countless times on a full bottle.
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that, when there is air in the tank of course! 😉
And taking out the stem with air in the tank could make you dead.
Remove the tophat and stem?!?!? 😯 To fill the air tank??!?!? If there is no tophat and stem what keeps the air in the tank…??? 😯
I have NEVER removed my tophat and stem and I have filled my tank dozens of times… I think Lang is misunderstanding the question…
Now if you want to empty a full or partially full tank put a dime or two in the fill adaptor and slowly screw in the tank, when the tophat hits the dime and gets pushed into the tank the air will be released…
Taking out the stem will void your warranty… 😉
Look at me and do not divert your eyes. Ignore everyone else.
Do not remove your top hat and stem….Period.
Screw the adapter to tank. Close bleed valve. Pump, repeat a lot.
When you reach pressure. Open bleed valve and drain all air. Remove tank from adapter.
There you go tank filled
He said he did exactly that, gave it 100 pumps and saw no difference showing on the gauge.
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Langen-whatever your name is: Every single post of yours leads me more to the conclusion that you are a moron.