No more EDguns out of Russia :(
Hi, guys,
Sorry for making a new topic, but it seems to me there is a reason to do it. As I told before — we got some problems with sending out guns out of Russia, all the ways, we used to work were closed. Thanks to our government, for example according to a new law one even cannot send a China soft-air pistol by mail out of Russia. The most stupid thing is they made a list of so called “gun parts”, thing out of that list are not allowed to be sent by mail, one needs to call the special company which has a license to delivery such a parts. Among real parts of the gun like barrel etc, you can find there a gun-stock as well or parts of the guns stock, just a piece of wood but it a real “gun part”! Needless to say we are not happy of such a stupidity.
Anyhow I decided to try an official way of the delivery, we made an official contract with my Estonian’s friend. Executed all the bank papers, allowing us to make a dilivery. Then I gave to the local custom office the whole bunch of papers to proof that everything is according to the law. We discussed many things with them, even if I need a special license from the Ministy of Defence of Russia, allowing me to take my guns out of Russia (I have to say, that according to Russian laws and all the papers I make no the weapon but the “thing like the weapon” I have them all sertified for 3 Joles limit.)
So, it took about 3 weeks to prepare all the documents, to agree all the issues etc. Then I got a permission to begin the execution of the papers, allowing me to take the guns out of Russia. Everybody told that everything would be OK. The truck came from Estonia, we were about to load it already and suddenly the custom officials claims that they need to take few samples for the test if they are real 3 Joles. They did it — took out 4 gun, 2 Matadors and 2 Lelyas. It was las Thursday, 10th of Feb. Needless to say we gave them the real 3 Joles guns, the truck was staying at my place, waiting for them. Couple of days ago Ii got the information that there are some problems with the test. I understood that there will not be any delivery and let the truck go back to Estonia (that cost me 1 500 euro to keep it here waiting for the loading). Yesterday I got a call from the custom office, they are willing to come to my place. I expect they want to arrest the rest of the guns (about 60 Matadors)
I have no intention to give the guns to them. I made an official letter saying that due to the long time of execution and hight cost of all the deal I refuse to delivery the guns out of Russia and will sell them in Russia.
So I evacuated all the guns from the workshop and expect them to come on Monday. I have no idea what will going on but do not expect anything good 🙁
Thus the last legal way of taking the guns out of Russia was cut off 🙁 And I have no option left. So there are two ways:
1. Those who made a deposit to Tony — you can take it back. Those who had paid me — give me a letter of PM we will discuss the way I return money to you.
2. Wait until we made the first 300 guns in Europe (we started to make them already). We expect them to be ready in September-October period of time of 2011.
Yes, there is another option — to come to Russia and take the guns by yourself but I would consider that option rather as fantastic.
I think needless to say how I HATE that bloody Russia bureaucracy, Putin and Medvedev. You even cannot imagine how we live here, we spend about 70 % of all our efforts and power just to struggle the system and only 30 % we can use for the real work 🙁
It became quite popular to make an Internet letter to Medvedev, so if some of you want to do it, you can make a letter to him, asking why the bloody Russia doesn’t allow their people to work and sell the good things out of Russia instead of gas and oil.
You can do it here:
http://eng.letters.kremlin.ru/
Sorry, guys for the bad news but you can trust me I was fighting the system like a lion but fail :(…
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@ zocoloco
There’s a reason some things are not told on forum. Some of us benefit from things not exposed to the world. I hope you understand what I mean ( as I am not native english 😉 ).
Yes but, does he still have his Lelya?
In the midst of all this, – look what he was able to write to a fellow member on the Norwegian forum today….. 😀 :
” Good news for you, your Lelya was finally sent from Estonia to you. Iexpect it to arrive within a week or so. Keep me informed about itarrival. So if you still want money back — no problem, when you get the riflesend it back to Estonia and I will refund money.”
Shipping method undisclosed though. Last time I had shipped something from Estonia, – it arrived after two days.
Well done Ed, in the midst of all this chaos around you……..!!! 😀
Guys, – this is what I wrote some time back, 21st of February to be exact…….. 😉
Anybody wants to guess what happened….???? 🙄
He got his Lelya. However, his wife left him for a one legged Estonian lesbian delivery lady, who is a professional Llama breeder on the side. Then his house was surrounded by a mob of enraged Norwegian bicyclists, high on bad cheese and tainted wine, who torched his garage, his new Jaguar, his vintage Triumph TR-3, and subsequently conducted a lewd, hip-hop dance, to the beat of a matched set of jungle drums on his front yard, during which the local police fired tear gas into the drunken masses???
Of course that’s just a guess on my part.
Hoot 😯
In the midst of all this, – look what he was able to write to a fellow member on the Norwegian forum today….. 😀 :
” Good news for you, your Lelya was finally sent from Estonia to you. Iexpect it to arrive within a week or so. Keep me informed about itarrival. So if you still want money back — no problem, when you get the riflesend it back to Estonia and I will refund money.”
Shipping method undisclosed though. Last time I had shipped something from Estonia, – it arrived after two days.
Well done Ed, in the midst of all this chaos around you……..!!! 😀
Guys, – this is what I wrote some time back, 21st of February to be exact…….. 😉
Anybody wants to guess what happened….???? 🙄
Yea, so are the one or two girls I’ve known in my life too. Although they did prefer me being even slower 😉 … back in 1968!!!
Koljo 😆
What is the difference in accuracy between the .22 and .25?
And what about the pellet trajectory? And shots per fill?
Can someone clarify? Maybe in PM?
Maybe you can read the forum ? I took the time and was worth it.
You are a little slow… but we’re all used to that. Let me explain it for you. Hoot just outbid you. That means that I will bring HIS gun from Russia instead of yours.
Give the man credit….he picked wisely.
You should of seen the grin on her face reading that. Thank you ! 😉
Guys,
What is the difference in accuracy between the .22 and .25?
And what about the pellet trajectory? And shots per fill?
Can someone clarify? Maybe in PM?
when i heard about the edgun problems i cancelled my order with tony. 2 days later a had a full refund. now THAT is the way to do business. thanks tony and ed. i’ll reorder when things get sorted out.
Hoot
Done! Please forward the few bucks in an envelope, you already know my home address. Just don’t overdo it as the slot of my post box is not too big.
😉
I trust him without hesitation with my money. He has my deposit currently and I’m happy I’m in line for the R3.
Hoot
This is my first time ever dealing with Tony, but based on the reputation of both him and Ed through all their postings and what everyone else has to say about these two great men, my money is also going to remain with Tony until I receive my very first Edgun!
What’s up Tony?
You requested a refund on Feb 8th. when I had your gun.
This thread was started 10 days later – on Feb. 19th.
I emailed you about refunding 50% and you completely approved it.
P.S. Everyone who requested their deposits back due to this shipping issue already received the 100% refunds.
I’ve dealt with Tony three times, and he has been extremely flexible with me, and my ever changing mind. He has been honest in every exchange I’ve had with him.
I trust him without hesitation with my money. He has my deposit currently and I’m happy I’m in line for the R3.
Hoot
Yours Ed
Ed,
There are only 1260 Km between us, and a plane ticket is not that expensive for me. Do you think I can come and get the R3 safely out of Russia ?
PS. My permit (license) only allow me to have 2 guns so I can get koljo’s gun too, if he pays for the tickets 😉
Dvdrw, before I buy you the air ticket to Russia, I need to know your preferred flight date. Unfortunately you do not have much choice as apparently a lot of airgunners from all over the world have booked most seats until November when Edguns will supposedly be free to ship outside Putin’s and Medvedev’s realm. There are, however, some still available for certain dates in August and November. Just tell me which you prefer, after extensive consultations with your wife, of course:
koljo 😉
Koljo, dvdrw’s wife is MUCH more shapely, and seriously cuter, than those ugly sluts you pictured on your post. Small wonder the Russians are using them to clean the plane’s toilets, and grease the turbine blades!
Give the man credit….he picked wisely.
I’ll go a few bucks on the plane ticket if I can get in on the deal. Provided you meet me halfway on delivery. I have to get that rascal into the U.S. Perhaps we can meet in Haiwaii???
Hoot
What’s up Tony?
You requested a refund on Feb 8th. when I had your gun.
This thread was started 10 days later – on Feb. 19th.
I emailed you about refunding 50% and you completely approved it.
P.S. Everyone who requested their deposits back due to this shipping issue already received the 100% refunds.
Yours Ed
Ed,
There are only 1260 Km between us, and a plane ticket is not that expensive for me. Do you think I can come and get the R3 safely out of Russia ?
PS. My permit (license) only allow me to have 2 guns so I can get koljo’s gun too, if he pays for the tickets 😉
Dvdrw, before I buy you the air ticket to Russia, I need to know your preferred flight date. Unfortunately you do not have much choice as apparently a lot of airgunners from all over the world have booked most seats until November when Edguns will supposedly be free to ship outside Putin’s and Medvedev’s realm. There are, however, some still available for certain dates in August and November. Just tell me which you prefer, after extensive consultations with your wife, of course:
koljo 😉
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Good news. The case against me was stopped and there will not be any other penalties but the money I’ve lost already. Anyhow I will go on trying to get the guns out of Russia officially.