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No more EDguns out of Russia :(

Hi, guys,

Sorry for making a new topic, but it seems to me there is a reason to do it. As I told before — we got some problems with sending out guns out of Russia, all the ways, we used to work were closed. Thanks to our government, for example according to a new law one even cannot send a China soft-air pistol by mail out of Russia. The most stupid thing is they made a list of so called “gun parts”, thing out of that list are not allowed to be sent by mail, one needs to call the special company which has a license to delivery such a parts. Among real parts of the gun like barrel etc, you can find there a gun-stock as well or parts of the guns stock, just a piece of wood but it a real “gun part”! Needless to say we are not happy of such a stupidity.

Anyhow I decided to try an official way of the delivery, we made an official contract with my Estonian’s friend. Executed all the bank papers, allowing us to make a dilivery. Then I gave to the local custom office the whole bunch of papers to proof that everything is according to the law. We discussed many things with them, even if I need a special license from the Ministy of Defence of Russia, allowing me to take my guns out of Russia (I have to say, that according to Russian laws and all the papers I make no the weapon but the “thing like the weapon” I have them all sertified for 3 Joles limit.)

So, it took about 3 weeks to prepare all the documents, to agree all the issues etc. Then I got a permission to begin the execution of the papers, allowing me to take the guns out of Russia. Everybody told that everything would be OK. The truck came from Estonia, we were about to load it already and suddenly the custom officials claims that they need to take few samples for the test if they are real 3 Joles. They did it — took out 4 gun, 2 Matadors and 2 Lelyas. It was las Thursday, 10th of Feb. Needless to say we gave them the real 3 Joles guns, the truck was staying at my place, waiting for them. Couple of days ago Ii got the information that there are some problems with the test. I understood that there will not be any delivery and let the truck go back to Estonia (that cost me 1 500 euro to keep it here waiting for the loading). Yesterday I got a call from the custom office, they are willing to come to my place. I expect they want to arrest the rest of the guns (about 60 Matadors)

I have no intention to give the guns to them. I made an official letter saying that due to the long time of execution and hight cost of all the deal I refuse to delivery the guns out of Russia and will sell them in Russia.

So I evacuated all the guns from the workshop and expect them to come on Monday. I have no idea what will going on but do not expect anything good 🙁

Thus the last legal way of taking the guns out of Russia was cut off 🙁 And I have no option left. So there are two ways:

1. Those who made a deposit to Tony — you can take it back. Those who had paid me — give me a letter of PM we will discuss the way I return money to you.

2. Wait until we made the first 300 guns in Europe (we started to make them already). We expect them to be ready in September-October period of time of 2011.

Yes, there is another option — to come to Russia and take the guns by yourself but I would consider that option rather as fantastic.

I think needless to say how I HATE that bloody Russia bureaucracy, Putin and Medvedev. You even cannot imagine how we live here, we spend about 70 % of all our efforts and power just to struggle the system and only 30 % we can use for the real work 🙁

It became quite popular to make an Internet letter to Medvedev, so if some of you want to do it, you can make a letter to him, asking why the bloody Russia doesn’t allow their people to work and sell the good things out of Russia instead of gas and oil.

You can do it here:

http://eng.letters.kremlin.ru/

Sorry, guys for the bad news but you can trust me I was fighting the system like a lion but fail :(…

EdGun

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It was a coincidence…I ended up owing taxes so i had to pull my deposit. Funny,,,Tony offered me 50% back. I accepted. Got my $75 back.

Read this and it seems I could have got all my money back.

What’s up Tony?

😀

WOW! Too bad I already have a .22 standard, I would love to spend $500 more than I paid for mine!

I wonder what my .25 long version (1 of 2 in the US) is worth?

quote dvdrw:

quote Ed:

Thus there is no problems for those who leaves Russia with my guns, they just show the gun on the custom line, saying they have bought it in Russia, there is no limitation by the law to prohibit for foreigners to take it out of Russia and they easily goes out.

Yours Ed

Ed,

There are only 1260 Km between us, and a plane ticket is not that expensive for me. Do you think I can come and get the R3 safely out of Russia ?

PS. My permit (license) only allow me to have 2 guns so I can get koljo’s gun too, if he pays for the tickets 😉

dvdrw:

Save the travel and expense, maybe buy this Matador on sale here:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/79574/message/1298685069/FS++EDgun+Matador

Better hurry.

quote zocoloco:

I have an AirWolf MVT .22 in 40 ft/lbs and with a 500 cc bottle….

More than 100 shots at approx 900 fps from one fill. – and a completely flat shotstring…..

Sizewise, – it’s a monster compared to Matador………. 😉

What about accuracies ? Same size group at 70-100 yards ? What type of pellet does the Wolf like best ?

I have an AirWolf MVT .22 in 40 ft/lbs and with a 500 cc bottle….

More than 100 shots at approx 900 fps from one fill. – and a completely flat shotstring…..

Sizewise, – it’s a monster compared to Matador………. 😉

F and D, I have been thinking about ordering an Airwolf also.

It is probably a match with the Edguns for accuracy. I would have fun making a bullpup out of it while I am waiting for the R3 .25!

Let us know how you like the Airwolf.

I HATE waiting for Edguns!

Its been a long wait and now this bad news 🙁

To ease my pain I ordered Daystate Airwolf MCT Tactical this morning so I can do something while waiting for my Lelya and Veles.

I downsized to one rifle – Matador. And now its getting a new high tech friend from England =)…. will be here on Friday.

I am very excite ! 😉

quote dvdrw:

I’d like to get a mail like that but EVERYBODY assumed that it’s impossible.

It’s not the mail that is important to receive, it’s the gun……… 😉

Let’s see what happens. There are no restrictions on shipping .177 caliber out of Estonia, – and there are no restrictions on .177 in Norway. It should cause no problems whatsoever……. 😀

My admiration goes to ED who calmfully could sit and write emails like that in the middle of an assault by the police…… 😯

Maybe you shouldn’t have posted that…

I’d like to get a mail like that but EVERYBODY assumed that it’s impossible.

It wasn’t impossible but it sure is now.

quote oldgoat:

Hello Ed! I am glad that they didn’t drag you off to jail!

Apparently they did not…

In the midst of all this, – look what he was able to write to a fellow member on the Norwegian forum today….. 😀 :

” Good news for you, your Lelya was finally sent from Estonia to you. Iexpect it to arrive within a week or so. Keep me informed about itarrival. So if you still want money back — no problem, when you get the riflesend it back to Estonia and I will refund money.”

Shipping method undisclosed though. Last time I had shipped something from Estonia, – it arrived after two days.

Well done Ed, in the midst of all this chaos around you……..!!! 😀

Hello Ed! I am glad that they didn’t drag you off to jail!

Please keep us posted as to how the battle is going.

Definitely let us know what we can do to help in any way.

You have a united front who are ready to support you at a moments notice.

Stay the course….

I never pay, that is a way to hell, I know 🙂

OK, nobody was shot or arrested, we stepped in a phase of a paper war (which I hate, I’d prefer shooting).

Thanks for the support. Now I am deep in papers, laws and other shit, have to study it to be able to fight with them.

Ed

I hope that he will just get a fine .

Ed, just pay the damn bastards. We will put our money together to help you.
Just bribe them and be on your way.

You will never hear from them

for a month or so.

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