Scope for the P12
Hello guys!
So I finally ordered a P12 .22!
Probably arrives next week. But now I need a scope for it. I’ll try to use it in the 50-120 y range
I have 3 options for now:
Hawke 3x9x40
Leapers 3-12×44 36 colours
Tasco target varmint 6-24×42
What are your opinion on those please?
Regards, Calil :fishinghole:
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So I finally ordered a P12 .22!
Probably arrives next week. But now I need a scope for it. I’ll try to use it in the 50-120 y range
I have 3 options for now:
Hawke 3x9x40
Leapers 3-12×44 36 colours
Tasco target varmint 6-24×42
What are your opinion on those please?
Regards, Calil :fishinghole:
Geez, had I noticed your post, I would not have made the one I did about the P-12 and scopes.
Regardless, I like the scopes you have chosen, but as I have mentioned before, it is my very humble opinion that bigger scopes look a bit gawdy or awkward on the P-12. Taking the amount of money being saved by purchasing the P-12 vs. bullpups that cost twice as much, I find it to be a great opportunity to take advantage of that savings and to get what I personally feel is the best scope possible for the P-12.
I am considering the ones in the links below for the following reasons…
#1 reason is that I want something light-weight and compact-
#2 is I want great clarity and quality-
#3 is that I feel an awesome looking bullpup such as the P-12, should have what is in my humble opinion, an awesome looking scope-
and
#4 i really like, want and need a side-ao focus feature and I can put a side-focus lever on the adjuster knob to enhance the looks even more…little bit more “bling” if you will, but it will be a black lever from: http://rowanengineering.com/products18.htm (bottom of the page)
http://www.cadwis.com/op2001.html
http://www.cadwis.com/op2005.html
http://www.cadwis.com/optisancx.html
There are videos on here/there that you can watch too. I was amazed at just how much fov there really is myself. Of the (3), I am pretty sure the MTC Connect 3-x12x32 with AMD reticle would be my first choice.
Take care,
aero.
Don’t worry I will!!
Unfortunately the scope will take a little longer to arrives. But until there I’ll use my 6×32. I’ll do a little review :8:
Good for you!! :8:
We want to hear all about it!! 😀
Take lots of pictures and post them!! :thumb:
Guys
I tried getting 6-24x here, hawke. But no can do.
I ended up with a Leapers UTG 4-16×44 lateral parallax. Will have to be enough for now 🙂
My P12 probably arrives tomorrow!!! :biggrinn: :biggrinn: 
“the target wont be very big and remember, the leapers scopes ALL have thick crosshairs, if you can get one with ethced glass for a good price do it. the lines are much much finer then with the standard scope crosshairs”
this is ver batim, i said if he can get the leapers model with etched reticle he should, they are comprable to the reticle on the hawke. its would be the same scope, just a differen x-hair style and application method, nothing more. in which the scope he is questioning from the accushot line has the option for an etched reticle.
i merely advised brother calil that etched if available is a better otion on the lower magnafication for shooting longer distances because the finer x-hairs allow a clearer visual of the target vs the broad x-hairs of the non etched variant.
im sure if he has the standard available then he should be able to get ahold of the etched version for just a tad more and be well under the price of the hawke and have the same quality x-hair as the hawke but not as good of glass.
i have the non etched version of the scope sitting right here he is questioning about in a slightly lower magnafication then he is asking about. i have tested mine at 100y and it is doable but the broad x-hairs make it difficult to see crystal clear at that range. thats y i suggested the etched version if available.
sorry for the seemingly ranty nature, i think you may have gotten thrown off a little by the hawke clarity vx leapers thing, i appologise tulsa.
it is what it is though, a budget scope. but a damn good one either way.
Patrick,
We are, well at least I am, trying to help this gentleman make a choice between two scopes that he is asking about,and of which you know nothing about either.
The Hawke Eclipse 30 SF 4-16×50 and Leapers UTG 4-16X44 30 mm neither of which have an etched reticle. The glass in the Hawke scope is fully multi-coated which means they have MUTIPLE layers on all air-to-glass surfaces.
The Leapers are Emerald Lens Coated is just a fancy marketing word in which is a SINGLE coating is applied and is not the same quality of optic as what the Hawke scope is.
No, Leapers UTG does NOT offer etched reticles on “pretty much every scope they offer”. They only offer it on TWELVE scopes out of forty-nine optics packages of which I’d only remotely suggest one of three for Cali’s application.
But neither of the two that Cali is trying to decide on has that feature and the Hawke is going to offer him the best clarity under most shooting conditions.
yes, they make a etched model and a standard wire model. as seen here
pretty much every option they make comes in a standard AND a etched version.
mine does not have the etched reticle BUT i have had the liberty to use a rifle with a etched and it was just as fine as any hawke ive ever looked through.
BUT theres a catch, the hawke non adjustable 3-9 has a very broad reticle so thats the one exception i know of for hawkes and fine reticles
Patrick, are you telling me that the UTG has a etched reticle??
sorry for the confusion
I get you, sorry bro
no biggie, thoughts are often confusing when read by others. its all good
Furthermore, the Eclipse does not have an etched reticle.
Would you PLEASE only comment from EXPERIENCE!!
I have five Hawke scopes and I have owned several Leapers including the one being discussed here.
i was speaking about the leapers. not the hawke. with etched glass on the leapers it will be compairable to the reticle on the hawke as i stated previously. sorry for the confusion though. and by clarity i mean the ability to see the target through the scope. with a broad x-hair it is diffucult to see what you are aiming at from a long distance with a broad crosshair. with the etched glass being a finer x-hair you can see more of the target with clarity. thats what i meant
i have looked through a hawke 6-24 and own a 3-12 leapers and to my eye the leapers is actually a clearer picture over the hawke. maybe the hawke is fuzzy because of the lense coating or something but in my experience the leapers are very clear for the money.
especially since i own a centerpoint 3-9×32 and it plain sucks compaired to just about everything else in that price range
Patrick, you have spoken incorrectly again… the reticule has nothing to do with the clarity. It’s the quality of the glass used in the construction of the scope and the coating of said glass.
Furthermore, the Eclipse does not have an etched reticle.
Would you PLEASE only comment from EXPERIENCE!!
I have five Hawke scopes and I have owned several Leapers including the one being discussed here.
sorry for the confusion
I get you, sorry bro
With 16x zoom can I go to 100~130 yards you think? For example I watched Ted killing doves @ 130 y with 10x on his sidewinder
can definately reach to 100y buddy.
the target wont be very big and remember, the leapers scopes ALL have thick crosshairs, if you can get one with ethced glass for a good price do it. the lines are much much finer then with the standard scope crosshairs
thats something thats been missed. thwe etched glass will be a clearer picture as well compairable to the hawke
1. A etched reticle scope will be no clearer than a wire reticle scope of the same model… the reticle construction has little to do with the overall clarity of the scope. It only sometimes may help with color distortion that a wire reticle appears to have.
2. A $150 etched-reticle leapers scope is not going to be as clear as a $450 Sidewinder, if that’s what your trying to say. You get what you pay for with scopes (up to a certain point).
no no, i think you mis understand what i meant. by clearer image i mean the crosshairs are finer meaning you get a clearer picture of the intened target, sorry for the confusion. also the etched glass grabs the IR reticlue units light much better and helps to eliminate the bright on bottom dim on top effect that wire x-hairs have on illuminated reticles.
sorry for the confusion
With 16x zoom can I go to 100~130 yards you think? For example I watched Ted killing doves @ 130 y with 10x on his sidewinder
can definately reach to 100y buddy.
the target wont be very big and remember, the leapers scopes ALL have thick crosshairs, if you can get one with ethced glass for a good price do it. the lines are much much finer then with the standard scope crosshairs
thats something thats been missed. thwe etched glass will be a clearer picture as well compairable to the hawke
1. A etched reticle scope will be no clearer than a wire reticle scope of the same model… the reticle construction has little to do with the overall clarity of the scope. It only sometimes may help with color distortion that a wire reticle appears to have.
2. A $150 etched-reticle leapers scope is not going to be as clear as a $450 Sidewinder, if that’s what your trying to say. You get what you pay for with scopes (up to a certain point).
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aero, with the money we have all saved buying the p-12 there is no reason to skimp on glass.
lol, you already chose a rather high end optic i have heard nothing but great things about as you posted on the other thread you made.
i recomended the scb2 reticle just because of the windage reference marks VS the blind amd reticle.
its funny how much optics cost VS the price of a gun. i know 3 people personally that own scopes that cost almost X2 what the rifle cost. is it practical? no probably not, but what can you do when what you really want is 1200 bucks? lol
calil is loving his p-12. so much so nobodys heard from him for days :winkn: so i think its safe to say hes loving the gun.