Shoebox
Just got on the list #211 , so it will be a while. besides the desiccant filter is there anything I should get right away? Parts or O-rings?
I’m also in the market for a 88cf 4500psi scba tank. If I’m filling it myself do I need to be worried about hydro dates or age?
thanks
All Replies
I bought two of them before i knew they came apart very easily. And i did not need to buy two. But oh well.
Assman,
Your not alone on that, I threw away about 4 of them before I found out you can reuse them.
Regards.
Roachcreek
Damn, I thought those cheap ones got tossed. I spent a lot on the big Eastwood system, because I didn’t think I’d be able to reuse those small ones.
Dried mine last night too in a few minutes.
I trie that, and it does work, but is a PIA. With all those fucking little beads, I found a better way.
I just took the tops off of them, the black cap and the white felt like washer and left the beads in, put the galss/plastic bowls in the , in the rack setting up, at 170 degrees for about 45 minutes and they turned blue without removing them.
I do not know what temp the clear plastic melts at, but 170 degrees did not do it.
Be sure to keep your little rubber plugs to plug it back up or it will turn pink again from the air outside.
I have 8 of those traps so I just keep rotating them and use them doubled up.
Regards,
Roachcreek
This does work. I dried mine last week. Not sure if my thermostat is off but they took 45min. @ 300*F to dry. Just keep an eye on them.
Assman, According to a post on The Yellow:
April 23 2011 at 8:10 PM James Brinkley (Login AngliaUSA)
…the beads can be dried.
I revised his post a little for my own understanding but haven’t tried it yet.
Here’s the gist of it with slight modification of wording:
Here is how to dry your shoebox moisture trap :
First disassemble your moisture trap by unscrewing it;
Next line a small baking tray with foil;
Then dump the wet gel beads onto the tray;
Now put the tray and beads into the oven of your choice and switch your oven or toaster oven on I set mine at toast for about 4 minutes -Or 300 degrees for 15 mins in a regular oven. Once the beads are dry they return to the dark blue color. If you make the oven too hot or bake for too long the beads will soften and melt So watch the color change carefully.
Once dry remove the tray let cool for a minute or 2 and then make a small tinfoil funnel out of the foil so that you can easily pour the dry beads back into the tube. Before you dump the beads, plug the center tube of the filter with a small piece of cotton ball. Once filled remove the cotton ball plug and put the felt washer back in place and then reattach the tube cover.
Voila you are done and ready to pump again another day secure in the knowledge that you are putting dry air into your shoebox.
This message has been edited by AngliaUSA on Apr 23, 2011 9:30 PM
This message has been edited by AngliaUSA on Apr 23, 2011 9:11 PM
This message has been edited by AngliaUSA on Apr 23, 2011 8:14 PM
Also, slight changes in wording for my own understanding by Lurked #1.
24hrs run time to fill a 60min from 0-4500psi.
Yeah it does here to, for the last two days it has been raining like a cow pissing on a flat rock. I let my filter go for a month and got water in my tanks,, no rust, but had to clean/dry them out, so I went to the piggy back Harbor Freight dessicant.
Regards,
Roachcreek
Roach,
No oil.
I was just wondering because they sell the water trap and the desiccant filter separate. All of the two stage systems they sell ,the trap is for oil with a desiccant filter. I wanted the moisture trap and a desiccant filter.
My valve springs were rusted last I took time my tank apart so I think I have humidity or moisture issues. Over summer humidity can get real bad here.
Are your filters rechargeable or do you toss them?
Assman,
Is your compressor oiless? If it is you can get a water filter from Harbor Freight for less than 10 bucks. They were on sale a couple weeks ago and I bought 8, I have to change them often and these days I just piggy back them. If you have an oiless compressor, you do not need anything to take oil out.
A oiless only costs between 50 and 90 bucks. The one in my picture was around 50 bucks, again at Harbor Freight.
I question the wisdom of using a oil compressor, if that is what your considering, if somehow you get oil in the SCBA tanks you may have a problem, one that you won’t know about until your about 500 feet above the hole in the roof in you shop and coming back down. 💡
Regards,
Roachcreek
Will a oil separator also separate water? I am looking at eastwood two stage systems, but cant find one with just the moisture trap and desiccant. They all say oil separator and desiccant. I think I could get the two I want separate, but thought Id ask someone here, they aren’t open ’till Monday.
Thanks
http://www.eastwood.com/ew-2-stage-air-drying-sys-1-2-npt.html
Compressors here, but I’ve been to busy to get ahold of Joe and have a day or to before my tanks come.
No, I got 45’s and the 45 compressor
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
I use a compressor that has oil in the crankcase but none gets in the hose ,i use the compressor for airbrush work on custom bikes and oil would ruin the paint job ,I also have a large oilless in my shop.But I use a shoebox and some scba tanks I got on ebay for 105.00 for both they are 4500psi and 45min tanks works great.