TAG Sellers…..
Adam Wrote
People come on here and sell their wares and services and good ole Tony pays the bills and they are getting a free ride and often are competing directly against Tony and getting a free ride on his dime and they are only really here to make a few quick bucks.
Something is going to have to change around here.
This is becoming a more serious issue everyday.
Its becoming a little more personal to me every time the billing cycle comes up and I have to pay for others free advertising.
We are all so proud of our TAG and it will be here for a long time, but some changes will be made.
Thanks Tony
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[quote=” Hennnnnyway, If your going to be selling more than once or twice month , Dont be snook you know know who you are , we know who you are so shut up and listen , Capiece??
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With my fathers side of the family being filled with Italians I had to step in here lol.
Usually in the form of a question; the standard Italian form should be “capisci” (second person, informal) or “capisce” (third person, formal)
In the American form the last vowel is dropped, but in Italian all vowels are pronounced.
Also the english version is “Capice”
Demand for agreement, implying the other party should proceed as told, whether they agree to terms or not.
There’s a few things I Want you to take care for me. What should I call them; problems! I Want you to make them disappear, if you get what I mean, capice!
Just had to get that in there and funny shit hold over 🙂 the WOP in me couldn’t resist having some fun.
I can understand tony not wanting to foot the bill for others to make money and if someone had come in my pizzeria handing out coupons for their pizzeria I’d have to show em the gun.
It probably wasn’t a big deal in the beginning and now there are enough others offering similar services which may be cutting into his money which is a big deal. I doubt it’s an issue of having to fix other peoples problems as it’s an issue of $$$ which is what everything in life comes down to no matter what.
I am pretty new here so my opinion should be a piece of crap but here goes.
I am an ex engineer who has been in corporate management for some time now I have a small machine shop and the only time I get to “play” engineer is when I make different things in my shop.
The Soprano’s response got me thinking, and I have to disagree with its implication:
I can’t see how anyone would try servicing this niche market for real profit. There just not that much cash in it. Tony might do OK, but he is the biggest fish in the pond here and rightfully should do so.
That being said, I don’t think money is the issue here as some folks have mentioned.
Most of the good folks here service this hobby to either help out fellow enthusiast or just have fun making low volume runs of items allot of us want. It gives their creativity value which brings them some kind of fulfillment.
I can see folks like Eric, Wok, etc servicing the hobby for their enjoyment. They do it very well. But realistically how much moola are we talking about here? Not much I expect, a few grand here or there. Now if you guys are clearing $400K a year then I am starting an AF accessories business 🙂
I think Woks point and Tonys point is in regards to protecting the membership from lower than worm shit, scum bag, and fly by night merchants.
Then again I could be full of shit. Very likely.
TB
hear there
imean here hear
Mike
I second that, can I get a here, here?
(or is it hear, hear?)
Seems to me Tony has every right to protect his buisness.
Mike
So when the item gets to the new owner, and doesn’t work, they have no way to get ahold of the seller and figure out what they need to do to fix it. When this happens, they have to go to one of the knowledgeable folks here like tony and tony has to help them sort it out.
Nice guy that tony is, he does try to help, but he shouldn’t have to. He makes his own stuff, and when someone buys his stuff and needs help then he can help, but when it’s some random guy’s stuff that just isn’t willing to help anyone, it sucks.
So what is being proposed is a way to keep the scammers and the people that aren’t going to stay and help out, and only let the good guys sell things here.
This being the latest example of the problem:
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11579&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Lama
How do you come to the conclusion I am scamming or non reachable when my website and business email are in every posting on the forum, come on if you guys don’t want me here just say so and I will gladly leave. I am so busy I really don’t need the aggravation of a couple coach commandoes giving me shit, if you can produce a better product then make it or shut your hole. 😆 😆
I asked about this before I ever offered anything for sale here and these are the responses I got:
I totally understand your concerns and agree that it’s not fair for the rest of us to get a free ride. I’m willing to contribute as long as the rules are enforced the same for everyone. Let me know if I can help monetarily or otherwise.
I pay with time and effort building this place.
So no Copy Cats please. 😀
Tony’s latest hammer design????
Tony pays with CASH.
I pay with time and effort building this place.
So no Copy Cats please. 😀
I think it would be perfectly reasonable to charge any ongoing concern a fee to advertise here. That includes Surefire slugs. I would note that sellers in competition with the guy paying the bills are in a different category than sellers selling complimentary products that may or may not make the bill payers products more desireable. For example, Wokbutts and slugs might not be in the same category as valves, shrouds and tunes that are the products that Tony specializes in and he should not have to subsidize direct compitition.
Youz da boss.
Jim
I’m up for whatever you think is far Tony, just let me know and I’ll make it happen.
See, The ting is, nobody is kicking back upstairs to Big T, Big T has to get his cut see,
Dats how it works . See, if your gonna move merchanise on T’s territory
yu got to kick back , Dats just how its got to be. nothing personal , its just business. If not , well maybe he might send somebody over there to “”talk”” to you , know what I mean? We got people all over .
Hennnnnyway, If your going to be selling more than once or twice month , Dont be snook you know know who you are , we know who you are so shut up and listen , Capiece??If your going to be selling more than once or twice month , Den you might have to start kicken back some . Hah? Do the right ting and dont let me hear about anyone going behind his back .
good idea, we know what happened with dong
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I am an ex engineer who has been in corporate management for some time now I have a small machine shop and the only time I get to “play” engineer is when I make different things in my shop.
The Soprano’s response got me thinking, and I have to disagree with its implication:
I can’t see how anyone would try servicing this niche market for real profit. There just not that much cash in it. Tony might do OK, but he is the biggest fish in the pond here and rightfully should do so.
That being said, I don’t think money is the issue here as some folks have mentioned.
Most of the good folks here service this hobby to either help out fellow enthusiast or just have fun making low volume runs of items allot of us want. It gives their creativity value which brings them some kind of fulfillment.
I can see folks like Eric, Wok, etc servicing the hobby for their enjoyment. They do it very well. But realistically how much moola are we talking about here? Not much I expect, a few grand here or there. Now if you guys are clearing $400K a year then I am starting an AF accessories business 🙂
I think Woks point and Tonys point is in regards to protecting the membership from lower than worm shit, scum bag, and fly by night merchants.
Then again I could be full of shit. Very likely.
TB
That is true.
Also it is a matter of respecting the work of members here and who have put in a lot of effort in coming up with original ideas and work.
For example I can make shrouds, tune guns and do everything Tony does. And Tony can make Wokbutts and trigger guards and grip adapters etc. But we do not copy each other out of respect and the spirit of the brotherhood here.
We love original ideas and work but to look at the work of another and copy it to make a couple of bucks does nothing but cause problems.
There are plenty of places people can sell their goods but when you come into our house some respect needs to be shown.
We want to help protect the members from “Drive By” shady vendors and also want to promote original ideas and a safe place for people to display and sell them. If copy cats are allowed then that just discourages originators from developing original ideas and work.