texan repair parts
I live in Canada and wanted to get a new trigger sear for my texan which was damaged trying to remove a jammed bullet. I called Airforce to get parts shipped but they requested that I send it back to them. The false flag gun shootings in Oregon are just making it tougher for guns owners. It’s just an agenda to take away our firearms. I recently had my condor 9mm barrel kit made with an extrreme valve and wow is it ever a treat to shoot when my texan is going through repairs. I wouldn’t mind selling my texan to get another airforce condor or talon to make a 2nd bigbore. If anyone is interested or has a way to supply the Airforce gen 2 safety and trigger let me know 🙂 i was also thinking of getting a 9mm barrel made for my texan which would be a cannon 🙂 .308 too but first this beast needs new parts.
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Maybe he will keep his positive energy away from here for a while. Besides I don’t like crystal. It messes up your brain as we can see with Mr Joe.
Joe did not pay back the Distributor for my work done upon his rifle. He did pay for the shipping back to him. So IMO someone living off the prevails of others. Simply said.
Maybe he is using his 144 sided Vogel Crystal to shower the distributor with positive energy the way Atlanteans did Hoot:
Just an update.
Joe did not pay back the Distributor for my work done upon his rifle. He did pay for the shipping back to him. So IMO someone living off the prevails of others. Simply said.
Curious as well upon your controling of tank dump with your numbers too..wolfeyezkim@hotmail dot com
People like the idea of AFs modular design and its ability of being multi calibre in a plug and play format. Just opens the avenue of choices for those who want it. For the time invested most of thats from the trigger end of the gun. And isnt that the fun part of it all. Shooting time?
As for performances my Condor 9mm shooting a modified Lyman 356 R2 cast round that is decked down to 112gr. Spits them at an average 900fps and thats from a 2900psi tank charge for 20 rounds. 1moa from a TJ liner. A few grub screws and change her out to the airgun 300 and spit 50gr JSBs over a 1000fps. Change out the stem, breech and spring back to shooting 22 & 25. Just choices. :8:
Doug, how do you prevent tank dump with the porting you use that are larger than the Texan?
If you have a sketch I would love to look it over.
wglover46@hotmail.com
Cheers.
Walter
Yes but when your done you have choked it off so much.
My .308 valve has a .320″ hole for the seal. The Texan is .327″. My stem has a .320″ hole. The Texan has a .327″ but it has a stem in it.
By the time you take away from it the power will not be there for all the work that has been done. That’s way I said it would be better to put it in a condor frame and work from there.
Right now I shoot 112gr at 1000-1010 fps on 3200 psi. I can get more out of it but gun becomes harder to shoot. I have it choked down to .070″ top hat gap. It shoots 158 gr at 900 fps.
Yes anything can be done but the time invested for a under powered .308 is just not worth it.
Back pressure and dwell both being the key factors in controlling tank dump. AF engineers have done the work for you. The % of valve area and port size to calibre. That of the typical .25cal vs the 45 Texan. Little volume math and you have a % of reduction for your proposed interchangable barrel calibre.
Now if buddy at the EBR would have choked his valve volume from the seal to the tophat. Less air to the smaller calibre. No tank dump. Walters version of an interchangable top hat is ideal for the more mechanically inclined machinist type willing to do the math and build tophats and a volume restrictor for the valve interior.
So for a KISS (keep it simple stupid) approach. We all know what a typical funnel looks like. Now if we build one from a material capable of absorbing energy and the ability to handle extreme pressure changes. Hold it AF engineers did that for us, Delrin. So if we unscrew the tophat from the internal stem shaft. Machine a hole down the center of our inverted funnel so we have a nice fit. Little silicone grease to aid dont want it too snug this is suppose to be a dummied down plug and play. Our funnel built to decrease valve interior volume by lets say 60%. Now with our mouth end of the funnel we build it to choke off the Porting by 60%. We now have reduced the amount of air to escape the tank. We have also incorporated a flange chocking off the tophat ports equally. We now have an assisted back pressure closing force. In the middle of the rifle frame AF gave us that nice adjuster. So how about we turn it down to the other end of its adjustment spectrum. Pack up our ammo, chrony, extra air, pen and paper. Hit the range now you can chart your adjustment dwell from your spring impact pressure. Find you need more. Take along calipers some sand paper and sand down your inverted funnel mouth choking you ports. Let her breathe some more. Need more well you built a 50% 40% and a 30% restriction funnels didnt you?.
As Walters words Easy peezy, time consuming hell yea. You dont need to be book smart people stupid (typical engineer) but a reduced volume and back pressure are your friends for smaller calibers. But then this is just my opinion.
Not the Texan. To much going on.
I have a .457 build that I have been working on here and there. It should make 600+ fpe. My goal is to shoot 250 gr at 950-1000 fps with a 2″ shorter barrel then the texan.
T
Yes Doug, checked over Joe’s dinged up rifle pretty close
If it was me each caliber would have its own stem and top hat for sure and limit strove by a slevee or longer tophat. Then if too much strike with the hammer spring, change the spring. Easy peezy 🙂
I thought you liked working over these rifles to see what the possibities are?
Have you seen a Texan valve? I have one in my hand right now.
The main cause of tank dump is the barrel being large and having a small hole. Second is having to much travel.
The Texas valve has .310″ without the o ring and to the o ring is .215″. That’s almost 3 times the gap then my .308 that makes 300 fpe with .070″ top hat gap.
By the time you change out all the parts you are better off dropping a .308 barrel in a condor frame. You would have to choke it down so much and then your still dealing with a 20+ lb hammer spring. Remember the cocking part is the breech so barrel would have to be the same size.
At the extreme bench rest I met a guy that did drop a .308 barrel in his. He plugged 3 of the holes in the top hat and still was getting tank dump.
Not saying it can’t be done but I think for all the effort it will be a disappointment
Doug, tank dump can be tuned out Texan would be easy to cure with a top hat for each caliber.
Whitewolf knows Airforce very well. IMO he is the Canadian expert for things Airforce!
You can change the caliber. All you will get is tank dump. It’s like putting a .177 barrel in a .25 but only worse.
You must have good cred if the distributor is paying for your services! So I am going to assume that makes you an official authorized warranty service repair station. Have you been a recognized warranty service and repair center for very long?No I am not a warranty outlet for any gun manufacturer. As to credibility, thats a matter of public opinion. I shoot with Alberta’s Informal Recreational Feild and Target group. AIR F/T. 2 members here within this thread have been upon the trigger end of my work and visa versa. And we know each others shop make up and share numerous discusions as to the inner workings and foreseeable tweeks of airguns.
I guess if the distributor is paying for your work, then you must be very reasonably priced! I believe Im fair, geographicaly and economicly I am half the price per hour as a bonded/ licenced gunsmith, and when the machines spin 1/3/hr as the average machine shop. With a minimum 1 hr chrge. Hence its just a hobby. Just been at it for awhile.
The factory warranty repair that I am involved (different service tech industry) is always a royal pain in the rear. The documentation, authorization and reimbursement proceedures are more time consuming and require more attention many times more than the actual repair and service of the equipment. Of course they always lowball ya with their repair time/cost guidelines….
So, I would also believe that your rates and charges were not too outta line or in any way opprotunistic.
:2cents:
Joe was quoted within reason his repair bill, and 2 additional interchangable bbl calibres. 308 and 357 for his Texan. As to his part of the commitment pay for the bbls up front. Now if he wouldve commited I would have replaced his trigger components from mine. Its cheap to dream and speculate ax well as being the first to own a 3 calibre Texan in the world. But it takes cold hard cash to make it a reality. For now he will always be known as the first to fudge one up.
That is very cool thing of the distributor to do.
You must have good cred if the distributor is paying for your services! So I am going to assume that makes you an official authorized warranty service repair station. Have you been a recognized warranty service and repair center for very long?
I guess if the distributor is paying for your work, then you must be very reasonably priced!
The factory warranty repair that I am involved (different service tech industry) is always a royal pain in the rear. The documentation, authorization and reimbursement proceedures are more time consuming and require more attention many times more than the actual repair and service of the equipment. Of course they always lowball ya with their repair time/cost guidelines….
So, I would also believe that your rates and charges were not too outta line or in any way opprotunistic.
:2cents:
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