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AirMax P15 .25

Came last night. nice looking little pup is light as advertised. Spits AA 25.4s 796fps Hi, Lo 576 from just adjusting the hammer spring. trigger not bad nothing in the paperwork on what the reg is set at.

Pulled the stock off as i was unscrewing the rear mount bolt i heard something spring loose. nothing fell out lol. inspecting the bolt threads you could tell how far it was screwed in. so i screwed it in to see how far it moved the trigger rod that was what sprung free.

looks to be about 3 or 4 threads sticking through the hole hitting the trigger rod. i put it back together and just left out the rear bolt the front bolt holds it fine for now. i’ll cut a washer for it later. the side lever started out a little rough. the arm link seems to be hitting a square corner left over from milling i’ll hit that with a file later. not really crazy about the 11mm scope rail but looks like skilled laborer could whip up a weaver rail in no time. on sound at 1 meter away 796fps on my cheap sound meter 114dba, 1meter away 576fps 104dba.
ok so instead of making a washer for the rear mounting bolt i went ahead an sawed of 5 threads. that seemed to work best.

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quote loic:

why do you buy a new huma air reg? p15 is already regulated..i don t understand

Because the regulator that came in the p15 is not working right. I also don’t like the barrel and will be replacing it. I prefer choked barrels

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quote miksatx:

Hummm somethings up not sure what. My last mag it shot 3 shots with in a 1/2″ of each other the next 3 all hole connected. Move over to next target next 2 shots 1/2″ between shots. Right now I have scope rings attached via 11mm to weaver adapter.

Opppsss forgot to turn the power up 575 over the chrony just now. Turned it back up 788 shooting fine right now. Also ordered a new huma reg so it’s on the way.

why do you buy a new huma air reg? p15 is already regulated..i don t understand

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Last string looks good, glad to see. Time to finalize break in, find the best pellet for this setup and have lots of fun!

200barh&n 20.06 pellet reg came set at 130b lol will be no cutting the hammer spring
0t 650/713/803/773/777/777/780/781
.5 806/819/824/820/821/820/824/821
1t. 834/841/843/848/843/846/842/839
1.5 842/846/851/850/851/855/851/855
2t. 855/853/854/854/855/855/855/855 end 140bbar yes this is much better. Things are looking up.

regs made it P15 set at 130bar only could fill to 200b on my big tank.

Hi Papa well hopefully I’ll have a working regulator soon. Geeeza the regulators have been here since sept 9 customs sure seems slow.
Pulled the oem reg piston an changed out orings only replacement for the bigger oring was 90d and I pulled a 70d off. The small replacement oring was both 70d.

By cutting off 5mm, you definitely decrease preload but with that also the force the hammer hits the valve, therefore theoretically less fps keeping the same regulator setting. It’s the same as screwing out the hst by 5mm.
The benefit of decreasing preload is decreasing the risk of hammer bounce and therefore inconsistency. Some manufacturers use springs without any preload, and even have some room to slide in the uncocked gun. When you shake it, it rattles a little.

In order to have the same force for your hammer with a shorter spring, you’d need to have a spring with thicker wire/different material.
From my experience with the cricket, a stainless spring with given dimensions (length/outer diameter/wire thickness) is weaker than a piano wire spring with the same dimensions. Piano wire spring in turn is likely to give a little “ping” sound.
I have shortened the Cricket spring so there’s no preload at all but increased wire thickness to maintain force.
You might need to readjust your reg as well, as said, it’s a balance.

Out of ammo. So about this hammer spring it has about 13mm preload before it starts screwing in the breech. Spring L 55mm W 8.4mm wire thickness 1.42mm 18 coils. How about cutting 5mm off the length? Good or bad idea.

This is how they were arranged on the piston Ioic. Oh and no I haven’t tried changing them.
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thanks for you sharing
could you say me if you have change belleville washer rang?
it will be great to know the best arrangement for .25 calibers

The magazine will take polymags they cycle fine. Tracking shows regulators are in country now. H&N showed today not 19.91 but 20.06.

Umarex 11mm to Weaver added.

Back from my last adjustment, hst at 1t off full throttle 644/703/702/700/700/694/701/705. The last 2 adjust I only move reg screw the width of the screw slot. Going to have to order 25.4 pellets lol. Have some h&n 19.91s on the way. Well guess I’ll pull the reg apart and get a couple pixs.
Reg apart. Put it all back together readjusted the screw back to the start mark. Refilled 752/792/797/800/806/812/805/812

Back at it this morning. Moved the reg the 1/8″ refilled and I left it the one turn off full throttle. Which ended yesterday at 812fps. This morning 714/769/771/773/762/768/772/721 ok going to do 1 more adjustment.
Back 1/8″ adjust on reg 651/709/721/730/698/729/731/724 and just for the heck of it full throttle 708/776/783/788/786/781/790/785. One thing about all this shooting the action has loosened up nicely.

Thanks Wingman and Papa. all the shooting yesterday was done at full hst as that was how I got the gun and had no idea where to start to figure this shit out. Decided to start over. I run the hst out 5 turns. Start 2 shots 608/625, 1t.653/675 2t.698/716, 3t.742/756, 4t.792/801, 5t.821/816. One thing about the gun it easy to work on lol. Damn also about out of 25.4 ammo eak! Backed off 1t 797/799/809/809/807/809/809/812. Tearing down. Back moved the reg 1/8″ CCW lost light more tomorrow.

surprised as the shot string on the end of page 1 after greasing pretty much looked regulated.
Let me try to share some of the basics I learned.
In general, a regulator works with pressure difference. You fire the round, the regulated pressure drops, the piston in the regulator opens and admits air from the high pressure part of the air cylinder. As soon as the pressure behind the regulator (plenum volume between reg and firing valve) rises, the reg piston begins to close and shuts off at a certain set pressure (the regulated pressure).

The closing force (regulated pressure in the plenum volume) works against the washer stack. As soon as you fire a new round, the closing pressure falls, the springs are opening the piston until the inflowing air pressure closes again, and so on, and so on.

Knowing that, it becomes clear that normally screwing in the set screw decreases regulated pressure, as this closes the gap between the piston and the seat (it closes earlier). On the other hand screwing out increases the gap, the regulated pressure increases, as the piston closes later.

Increasing the gap too much results in a regulator that will not close at all, the full air cylinder pressure passes through, therefore you get an unregulated shot string.

Not knowing exactly the assembly of your reg, I keep it that general, hope it helps nevertheless.

Hammer spring works against the regulated pressure. There is a balance between both. Regulated pressure too high vs hammer spring : fps go down, as hammer spring can not open the valve long or far (one is related to the other) enough.
Regulated pressure too low vs hammer spring: the plenum empties completely and fps depends on reg pressure only.

Best would be starting to increase hammer spring force a max and try set your regulator slightly above the desired fps, then decrease hammer spring tension to reach desired fps, as a first approach. Fine tune from there.

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