Altaros Compressor
Hello,
we would like to take this opportunity to introduce our Altaros compressor for the home bottle filling on high air pressure up to 300bar/4500 psi .
At the same time, we want to answer your questions and ask your opinion on our compressor. We welcome all comments and type of information that would interest you and should be on our web.
Or some technical improvements that you would like on compressor in the future.
Here is few photos:
Compressor video test with temperature meassurements
Parameters.
Output pressure Max 300bar, 30MPa, 4500 PSI
Input pressure Min 5bar, 70 PSI
Max 10bar, 145PSI
Size (Height x width x depth) 30x30x60 cm 11.7 x 11.7 x 23.6 inch
Weight 5 kg 11 lb
More detailed information can be found on our website:
Or in our manual:
Thank you for your comments, which will surely help make the compressor even better than it is now.
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Man, knife, sorry to read that. Take it slow and get well soon, all the best!
Thanks also for the hint, sent a PM to dman.
Joe’s is a fine solution, for sure, the diabolo isn’t an alternative for me.
Thank you Both for this enlightening last few post. I have been down and out with another bad lung infection, and high fever, so haven’t been here. It is good to see You both, My Uncle Hoot and our French Man, who seems to have a rather good handle on things. Uh-Pressure related.
I was looking at the Diablo Filter, (high pressure side) but there are a few complaints of failures, in particular, with the supplied hoses.
The price was much better than what the JB unit has. I also know our own Dman here on the forum has a unit even lower in cost to the Diablo. If anyone is familiar with it, Please let us all know.
Knife
:hoot:
You live in FRANCE for pity sakes!!! At least send up pics of your girlfriend….
That’s my wishlist.
Kind regards,
Uncle Hoot:
PS: Your other suggestions are great, especially trying to get the more amendable threads on that fill hose.
Ok, not that I’m shy, my wife is though, sorry, no piercing pics…
Back to the topic, and this one is going to be a bit short, compared to rhe previous ones :rofl:
My wishlist for the altaros booster unit.
1st and foremost, I’d like to have a pressure gauge, even a small (but precise) one on the high pressure output side. I like to know at what pressure the fill is. Air gun gauges are not always THAT precise… the one on my Talon is a good example. Hey, no bashing here, it’s known to Airforce gun owners that some gauges can be a bit off, I just have one of them. 3000 psi corresponds to the end of the red zone, but that doesn’t change anything to it being a great gun. And the next package from Tony (or better its contents) will take care of the issue and add his signature to my gun, which should have been on there from the beginning (the signature, I mean, not the gauge, I hadn’t ordered it at the time).
Anyway, the gauge for the booster unit could be fit on this part, I think.
2nd, on the same part, I found out that it is rather hard to find a female foster with female threading. A female thread in this metal block in standard NBP or BSP would allow the use of standard foster male or female fittings with male threads and also solve the issue with the loosening male foster insert.
3rd … sh.., forgot what I wanted to say, … no, right, here we go… the bleed screw, might be a better idea to have a brass or other metal screw, maybe with just a plastic tip.
4th, still on the high-pressure side, I’d like to know what threads are used, as some time I think, the hose will have to be changed. Have sent them an email, will let you know about the answer. Should be mentioned in the manual though. Edit: 1/8 BSP
And last: on the high pressure output side, a molecular sieve moisture filter, with an insert avoiding that sieve or moisture can directly touch the filter housing. This could be sold as an option.
There could be a second option for a pressure valve on this filter, PLV, I believe it’s called allowing pressure to build up in the filter before flowing out.
I am thinking about something like Joe Brancato’s Alpha filter.
Well that’s my wishlist, feel free to add yours.
Kindly yours
:hoot:
Ok Pops….
Who told you about my post? Don’t even try to tell me you just stumbled upon it! Spill the beans, you don’t want to go under the piercing needle with this on your conscience!!!
Hoot:
PS: Please post some pics after the procedure. If you are too embarrassed…kindly post some pics of your wife/girlfriend’s piercings!!! Don’t be shy! This is a very private forum.
:rofl: Hoot: :hoot: Hoot: :hoot: Hoot: :rofl:
:hoot:
Moisture in a pcp is serious bad news. I don’t think you can over do it at all. I would seriously recommend everyone take moisture precautions, unless you live in a very dry climate.
By the way…do you have any idea why “Pops” would need to go into a hospital for a simple, bilateral nipple piercing??? He was a bit embarrassed to admit that…must be shy or something.
Seems to be an abundance of caution on his part. Perhaps they have a lot of nipple infections in France??? In Arkansas, they do it right at the mall…$50.00 to get it done, or $15 to watch…
Regardless, I wish him well. I hope he looks good in those colorful “Gigolo Shirts” that unbutton down to your belly button, and show off your manly pierced nipples! $500 Francs seems like a lot to have that done, but he’s getting the extra large, gold rings…and he gets a complimentary gold-filled neck chain to match up with them. I’d certainly like to see a photo of him after he recovers!
I just hope he doesn’t get “nipple sag” as he grows older…that looks like shit on a white horse, especially in women!
Don’t tell him I mentioned this!!!
Kindly ‘Ol Uncle Hoot:
Uncle:
I put one collector just outside of the shop compressor outlet. ran three of those yellow coiled hosed together for cooling, and attached an oil separator and another water separator, in reverse order to what is printed here. Two more yellow coils and another water separator, and another oil separator, water separator and a Wilkerson desiccant filter, and finally coupled to the Altarose. Which has one more water separator, and one more desiccant filter.
Talk about over doing it! LOL!!! but I was still finding a bit of moisture in the Altaros separator, until the last separator and Wilderson unit. Now I am not finding any moisture in the Altaros separator at all. Finally. !!!! :smilen:
Knife
:hoot:
The best place to put the water collector is at the end of the shop compressor fill hose, just before the Altaros booster. For reasons unknown to me, it collected much more water vapor there than it did when I tried it at the shop compressor’s outlet.
My collector was a hardware store cheapie. Given my experience, I would suggest a better water collector. I was getting several tablespoons of water at each fill.,,and that was with an inefficient cheap collector.
Hoot:
Dearest uncle,
Are you talking about the high pressure side of your workshop compressor or of the Altaros unit?
If the second would be the case, what unit do you use?
Vasectomy- learned a word today- cross fingers the surgeon doesn’t slip that low, neither too high, still need my two brains :rofl: , neither to the left (actually right from his point of view…), my body’s compressor doesn’t need a breathing hole…
Thanks for the encouragements anyway.
:hoot:
Dear Pops…
Nothing to be ashamed of…ignorance is an art, and few know how to practice it effectively! As evidenced by our Democratic kin who are pointing fingers, lining members up for the “firing squad”, and rioting in every major city (per CNN), because their candidate lost. They seem to forget they can try again in four years…if people aren’t happy they can change back…and chances are good the world won’t end in the interium.
Don’t be ashamed of being educated! A lot of us have backgrounds that we aren’t proud of, but this forum admits even the lowest of academics and other semi-functional individuals.
I never learned a foreign language, mostly because in Arkansas a majority of the population can’t even speak English! Too hard to pronounce
multi-syllable words without front teeth.
Per your remarks…I found I extracted more water from the high pressure side of my compressor, as compared to the moisture/water separator installed in the intake line. One must be careful in such matters, especially with desiccant beads…they require a bit of time to extract moisture and too fast an air flow will not permit them to get the job done properly. (see Freundlich’s Adsorption isotherm. , x/m = kP^(1/n ) x=Mass of adsorbate, m=Mass of adsorbent. , P=Pressure. K,n Are constants depending upon many factors…or words to that effect!)
Kind regards,
Uncle Hoot:
PS: Good luck with that vasectomy!!!
Oh, I forgot, still trying to find out how much air drying is necessary for a good quality air fill to keep guns shooting and tanks healthy, without going complete overkill.
Currently thinking that putting the air dryer on the high pressure side is most efficient, but difficult to find good, trustworthy sources and the necessary hardware.
Still :fishinghole: for info and trying to think it all through.
Cheers
Dearest Uncle Hoot,
I am just one amongst others who obtained an Engineering degree, mechanical, electrical and some business administration. They called it “industrial engineer” at the time. Before that, school, as most of us, high school, as quite a few and military service. Was a good bunch back at the army, at school and university. Before and during university, passed several semesters in industry, that’s where I learned the maual part and the respect for the masters of this art. Went abroad and became engineering and quality manager at one point in time, but found out later that key account manager pays better and gives you the car and fuel on top, that’s where I’m currently stuck. Automotive industry. Good school, and keeps you well occupied. Didn’t have enough balls up to now to start my own business, maybe never will, time will tell.
Orherwise paraglider and ultralight pilot (ppg), photographer, master degree in martial arts and former youth instructor, airgunner, scuba-diver (quite recent, baby-diver, as my instructor calls me). Former motorbiker, but had to stop something as time becomes a limiting factor somehow…
Being a curious guy, basically learned to read, write (in 3 languages currently, working on more though) calculate, compare, dismantle, analyze, learn and conclude, trying to repair or improve stuff. Always liked to instruct, basically share knowledge, that’s why I like this forum with all the good folks on here.
The writeups here follow a long research, purchase, getting up to speed, learning and pulling conclusions concerning compressors, and the Altaros unit which is fascinating to me due to it’s relative simplicity.
I saw there were a lot of questions and issues so I thought that all the basic understanding I went through before, might be appreciated here to help you guys and give back a bit of the mass of information I learned on this forum.
Cursive writing still gives me a hard time, though, and I understand that believing without pics is unbelievably hard but I would be most honored if you believe that what I wrote here is not complete bs. If I find some pics that make sense, though, I’ll try to edit ’em in. Long texts are always unbelievably hard to go through, a lot of imagination required on the reader’s side, I admit.
:hoot:
Dear Pops…
What is your educational background? Can you write in Cursive??? How do we know we can believe a word you write…after all, there are no pictures posted!!!
Almost all of the forum members made it past the 8th grade of elementary school. Some over-achievers even entered high school, and lasted as long as the second year of their four year program. They can write, and even read magazines that don’t have pictures!!! Some went on to successful careers as trained elevator operators, and waste management machinery drivers. Those of us less talented became corporate managers, drug dealers, private business owners, pimps, and a very few sold their very souls and became politicians.
Not everyone is that talented, that’s why we are curious if you are among our educated elite??
Kind regards,
Uncle Hoot:
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Ok, just finished checking the inside of my 300cc (18,31 cu.in) Bobcat (no discussions about rifle choice here, please gentlemen) air tube. It dates from 2013, and had ever since been filled using hand pumps (FX 4 stage turbo pump and Hill pump). Not the least sign of humidity or traces left by humidity, all glossy and shiny, o-ring seals on both ends undamaged, clean and still silicon lubed.
To make it short, I had to fill up this air tube from 0 to 200 bar (0 to 2900 psi).
With my setup, using the bigger of my two compressors (which except for the tank size is the same as the blue one all the way down on the Altaros page – section “performance”), “13. air flow setting screw” set in a way to have the 60/40 ratio for the workshop compressor, it takes 22 minutes to achieve this fill.
It takes 22 minutes to fill the 300 cc (18,31 cu.in) tube to 200 bar (2900 psi). From what we know now 200 bar (2900 psi) of air in a 300 cc (18,31 cu.in) tube represents 200 * 300 = 60,000 cc or 60 liters (2.19 cu.ft) of air.
This means a fill rate of 60 l / 22 min = 2.72 l/min (2.19 cu.ft / 22 min ~ 0.1 cu.ft / min), which is quite exactly the rate stipulated on the Altaros page.
As soon as I can do a similar test with the smaller workshop compressor, I’ll publish the results here.
Cheers