Best Ammo Choice For .25 AAA Condor
I would like to know what is the the best ammo to run through one of these guns to get max distance and energy when it hits. I’m wanting to shoot for consistence at 100 yards with some knock down force still. If i could get a few different makers and what grain size you would go with to achieve all this please let me know thanks.
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No I do not have a chrony yet. My wife overheard me talking to Tony on the phone last week and I told him I was ordering one. She had other thoughts. It seems she is next in line for play money and I have to agree.
No I do not use sand bags because I plan on using these slugs for hunting when everything gets dialed in. Dought many of you guys bring bags hunting with you. I used my bi-pod. I’ve only shot 60 of these slugs so far and I definately feel a difference in the guns behavior than from shooting pellets.
The thing that keep confusing me is, why was I able to hit that pot that far out consistently with more shots in between fills, then have 30yrd groups like that.
Jerry, those slugs are very good quality, it’s gonna come down to getting a chrony, finding the sweet spot and practice, practice, practice.
Thanks pb and Jerry for your thoughts, it will definitely help me on the road to tightening up my groups
pb,
It’s good to know that you see left-right shifts with velocity and you’re shooting a similar gun. That’s something to consider for sure, the recoil effect too.
My computer is hosed up and won’t open photoshop editor right now. I wanted to take one of the pictures and make it semi-transparent and lay it over the other. I think the actual centers of the two groups are very close together.
i first thought the gun might be riseing with recoil crooked in the bags, like a springer does. if you dont have your bags set good enought. but it seems to consistant , so i was blameing it on fps shift.
are you shooting off sand bags.?
a .22 condor moves around a good bit at 1000 fps with 32 g. pellets so i know that those are moving quite a bit.
I’m not surprised that the sizing didn’t make any difference. Afterall, you really just transfered some of the work done in loading to the sizer. It was definitely worth a shot though! Besides, easier loading is a plus.
I find the diagonal groups noteworthy though; do you think you might be canting? I don’t really know enough to diagnose those groups like an expert but two diagonal lines just cause my aversion to coincidence to pop up! If the lines were in the same direction, I’d still think cant but I’d be more inclined to think drop in velocity might be moving the impacts horizontally as well as verticle. With the opposing directions, I think more about set-up. Either way, the shape of the groups seems worth thinking about because if the slugs had random error, you’d expect the pattern to be random…
Huuummm? so i guess you don’t have a chrony?
ON my gun if i have a center zero and shoot thru a curve the impact will rise and go left, then come back down thru the zero and continue low right.
so it looks like you are recording your impact shift thru the velocity curve,
Ok , how can you do this without chrony, ,,,, say you fill to 3000 , your group should rise from this fill??? then fall, OK now when it comes back to zero , ( pull the tank and see what the tank pressure is) this pressure is the middle of your curve from the impact moving up then back down,
now fill like 100 psi over this point or 150 psi over this point and it should give you like 5 shots over the curve and 5 shots under the curve,
this should give you peak accuracy, for 5 to 10 shots with 44.4 fps per shot according to your air usage on the other target.
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I sized and weighed 10 slugs today to compare to the straight out of the bag slugs. The results showed no difference in accuracy. The results also showed I didn’t shoot very well. 🙄 I noticed that the gun has more recoil with this tight and heavy ammo. I think the groups will tighten up with more practice and adjust the pw some more. I was also rushed and had to fill with my hill pump which in turn pumped up my heart rate. Well I’m done with excuses, here’s the pics.
All in all, resizing wasn’t needed. Tightness didn’t seem to matter.
The slug that I sized to.250 ended up .2483 after it went through. I used a slow yet proved to be very accurate method of resizing, according to my mititoyo micrometers.
I rolled the slug between 2 sleel plates with hardened drill rod in front and behind it. Today I will get my bulk tank filled, rebuild a back stop because my current one is demolished, resize 10 slugs and see what happens.
pb,
I’m not aware of anyone else having done any resizing work but it would make sense for absolute fine tuning. All of the slugs we send out are sized. The mold drops them at just a hair over .253 but we run slugs ordered at that size through the sizer just be be certain. At .253 they size super easy, at ,251 it is still easy but positive in feel.
I may need to order a .250…
thenoid
what was the size of the slugs after going thru the barrel, also it would be nice to know what the size is without going thru the choke.
push slug to the choke, dont go thru, them push back out of the barrel.
if you really want to tune to your rifle you could get sizeing dies from lee and have one .001 over bore , one at bore size and one .001 under bore size , to see what shoots best in yur rifle.
Jerry
do you know if anyone has done this, also are your slugs straight out of the mold. with no sizeing.
i wonder what the bore size is on the .25’s
Jerry or anyone else that may have experience.
I’m finding that the .251 dia. is going in very tight, so I did a little experiment to see how much the choke was engaging the slugs. I resized a couple and pushed them through the barrel with a cleaning rod. 1 was sized to .250, it pushed through hard the first 3″ then eased up till the choke squeezed on it so hard it almost was stuck. 1 was sized to .2475 and that went through easy until I hit the choke, then the lands all engaged but was much easier to get through.
My question is, has any one had better accuracy sizing slightly smaller for LW barrels and these slugs?
Tomorrow I will try to get pictures of the slugs. I’m having a hard time getting the lighting right for the supper macro lens on my camera and it’s getting late here in CT.
They went through my furnace and the door in front of it.
Well, I hope That revelation causes you no harm! 😆
Jerry, the 6 rings penetrate a ’82 Subaru wagon hatch at 100 yards. LOL
Thanks for posting the picture! I guess those 7 rings carry plenty of energy downrange. 😯 It’s clear that squirrels will have to use better cookware than that to keep safe… 😆
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Well it’s a big pot , 😉
Hell when you get that thing dialed in it will shoot 1” or so at that distance. With the pellet that it likes the best . (JSB’s ) 🙄