Carette 4500 PSI Compressor Report
The Carette 4500 compressor is a Chinese compressor that seeks to fill the price performance gap between “big boy” dive compressors and Shoebox compressors.
Mr. Wang has kindly supplied a demonstrator unit for testing. As a demonstrator unit rather than a final production unit, the test unit may not match the appearance and configuration of the actual shipped units. This one included a PMV, high pressure air filter unit and automated condensate drain system. I do not know if those features will be in the final configuration. I have been told that the external finish will be better on the actual units. Also, the crankshaft bearing and rods will be more durable than those on this demonstrator.
I had hoped to be testing a unit that is an actual production sample, but because this is a demonstrator unit, bear in mind that the shipped product may differ from what I am testing. This does affect my ability to report whether the machine is a thumbs up or down. If the production units are worse than what I’m testing, I certainly wouldn’t be happy, nor would our forum members. On the other hand, I am getting very appropriate and encouraging responses from the manufacturer regarding my findings. Mr. Wang (Sincere) is actively improving the machine based on my comments.
For instance, he was ready about make changes regarding current draw based on my measurements. I don’t think changing the current draw would be worth it, if it slows the compressors. Also, the amount of oil I see in the condensate was already a known issue on this demonstrator. They already have a different component that cuts the oil bypass to 1/3 what I’m seeing. The oil bypass even on this demonstrator isn’t horrible. He’s also planning how to integrate the air filter on the compressor frame. It’s that type of desire to make a better product that I want in a manufacturer.
Rather than the demonstrator being perfect and production machines worse, we could end up with better production machines. However, I can only report what I am seeing and won’t speculate on what will actually ship to you. On the other hand, I have the impression that Mr. Wang actually does intend to deliver what he promises.
Main Topic Posts Index
Unpacking, Parts, Feature Details
http://www.talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=35990&sid=25a9f57107862238e05a475ca0efe908#p371780
Oil, Water, Initial Run-in
http://www.talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=35990&sid=25a9f57107862238e05a475ca0efe908#p371781
Rifle Air Cylinder Filling Test
http://www.talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=35990#p371782
Great White CF Tank Top Off & Fill From Empty Tests
http://www.talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=35990#p371783
24 Hour Torture Test
http://www.talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=35990#p371784
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1. Compressor appears well made from exterior. Mechanical load was lowered enough that even “Chinese” grade material has a chance at surviving. Cooling of components and especially that of the compressed air after each stage is impressive good. The water oil mechanical separator is big enough to effectively work. Bleeding it only costs about 30 seconds before the compressor gets back up to pressure.
2. Operation is convenient. It’s more plug and play than my Bauer Jr. The system is self contained, no need for cooling bucket hassles. You just plug it in and turn it on. Auto shutoff, PMV, auto vent all work
3. Rate is not super speedy but faster than a Shoebox. Can top off and Great White in about an hour and fill from empty in three hours. If you get the auto drain, the entire fill cycle can be unattended. The production units are expected to be slightly faster than this demonstrator and have a lower amperage draw after they replace this motor with one with a higher power factor.
4. Electrical system is fully encased. It lacks the easy, electrocution feature of the Arkansas device.
5. It came with a high pressure filter big enough to match its output. I would probably make a removable cartridge for its filter cylinder rather than put the molecular sieve and activated carbon in direct vessel wall contact – both for corrosion and ease of media inspection reasons. This component is being redesigned to integrate with the compressor’s frame. I don’t know the final configuration.
So, yes, it functions well as a high pressure compressor for filling or topping off a full size SCBA tank.
The big question remaining is whether the Carrette 4500 will survive long enough be worthwhile. No one wants to spend $1,200 on a device and have it crap out. You want a compressor that can be reasonably expected to last through years of home use. For me, that’s topping up my tank about once a month. That would be about 12 hours/year run time on this compressor.
Will it last with that level of usage? Twice that? Three times that?
How many hours before needing rebuild?
Will you run it long enough to ever reach rebuild?
When it comes time to tear down and rebuild, will there be parts available?
This isn’t over built like a “big boy” dive compressor. The construction is intermediate, but much better than the Fumigator Extreme. If it was driven hard enough to do 3L/minute, I would be worried about it breaking down. The designers have wisely reduced compression speed to about 1L/minute. That means means a lower mechanical and thermal load on the components. It has a fighting chance at a longer life span. The resultant fill speed slots neatly between a Shoebox and a big boy compressor. Pricing is substantially lower than a dive compressor – appropriate for the feature set, build level and convenient operation.
I can’t use this for a year and then report how it lasts without you guys on the forum lynching me. Bear with me. It takes time, effort, and electricity to do the test runs. Do you know how long it takes to bleed down a tank? Despite a crushing work load this month, I am building up at least 30 hours of operation before doing the tear down. That’s over two years of simulated use – long enough to give hazard a guess at how likely it will hold up. Tearing down earlier would not have addressed the longevity question adequately.
Yes, there will be plenty of pictures.