ED is announcing a price increase…..
Hmmmmm…..
Ed posted the below (translation by Google) on his Russian forum yesterday:
It appears he may be looking for a price hike due to the negative development of the ruble……… 🙄
We’ll see………
Cheers
Trygve in Oslo :biggrinn:
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Hi Synopsys,
if the rifle is in good order then probably you just haven’t found yet the right pellet, you know barrels happen to be picky.
If it’s the rifle then certainly one of the tuners will find the reason, not normal .177 PCPs not to be deadly accurate indoors, outside it’s a different story and mainly the wind being the reason for this.
Please consider as well that power cannot be set as high as on bigger calibers or accuracy will suffer.
Good luck. 😀
How does your .22 Steyr compare in long-range accuracy? Have these been modded? Also…Crosman pellets? Are either of these rifles pellet-specific/picky?
Sorry for the questions; the Steyrs have had my curiosity piqued for some time; one of those “someday” purchases. I’d have to figure the cost of an add-on moderator, too. Imagine they’re a bit noisy without one.
Thanks.
The .22 doesnt have the power to push a 18.1gr jsb much past 820fps so long range is limited.. I shoot the Jsb 15.89gr Edgun pellets
it at 890fps and it groups just under an inch at 100m. Them .22 barrel is a L/W 1-17.5″ twist. both the .177 and .22 are very loud.. the steyrs have a very unique sound, they sound like you are shooting down a big steel echoing drain pipe and have quite a crack.. very quiet when suppressed though.
The .177 barrel is made by Anschutz and was designed and chambered for the JSB 8.44gr but loves pretty much every thing Ive fed it.. the Crosman Prems 7.9gr and JSB 8.44gr would be the best for 50yard stacking but in the wind the Prems (both 7.9 and 10.5gr) out shoot the JSBs every time..
I shoot the .177 very hot.. 980fps with the 10.5gr prems and 1020fps with the 7.9gr prems.. I have never seen an unstable prem at those speeds and the accuracy is surgical out to 100m.. it is my go to sparrow gun for the spring invasions..
here’s a old vid I did of one of those spring invasions.. WARNING GRAPHIC 😯
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5LmiQzdjSA
And here’s an old pellet test I did not long after I bought it.. http://nzairgun.com/forum/index.php?topic=401.0
100m is not a problem for my Steyr in .177cal… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76e4NHPuLDM
😯 😯 Wasn´t aware of that. I thought the max range would be 50m or so. Even better then !
Dang good for inside much less outside. :8:
100m is not a problem for my Steyr in .177cal… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76e4NHPuLDM
Wing, that’s impressive shooting. Thanks for posting the vid and groups. Beautiful rifle
How does your .22 Steyr compare in long-range accuracy? Have these been modded? Also…Crosman pellets? Are either of these rifles pellet-specific/picky?
Sorry for the questions; the Steyrs have had my curiosity piqued for some time; one of those “someday” purchases. I’d have to figure the cost of an add-on moderator, too. Imagine they’re a bit noisy without one.
Thanks.
100m is not a problem for my Steyr in .177cal… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76e4NHPuLDM
I realized that. I’m really starting to sound like one of those.
To my defence i say that i didn’t realize you were comparing a .177 against .22/.25 . I have never had a PCP in .177 but my questimate for it’s max range regarding accuracy is at around 50 meters under perfect conditions . I’ ll have mine for backyard duties to max 35m so it should work fine for that.
I agree to everything else above. Very well said.
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Now you sound like the very same people who justify Ed’s non-actions on fixing his defective rifles. 😆 
:angrymob:
It’s no lemon, it’s a 177! 😯 Seriously though, there is a huge difference between 177 and 22/25 in terms of being accurate, for one the 22 and 25 pellets are easier to make well, comparing a tin of JSB 177 & 22 the difference is night and day!!!! 😉
I’m not shooting birds or small varmints, i’m shooting for 100% accuracy at the edges of the pellets ability to be accurate (+/- 60 yards). The Cricket simply doesn’t do it ‘out of the box’ in 177, or even “tuned” apparently, that or the folks who tuned it don’t know what they are doing (which would be the same folks everyone raves about for service while in the same breath they put down Ed and his products).
How are your 125-150 yard groups in 22? Can you shoot a ten shot sub 1/2″ group over and over with it from an unsorted tin of pellets? I equate testing a 177 for accuracy at 25 yards to testing a 22 for accuracy at 50 yards, shows NOTHING really, the ‘magic’ happens out at longer distances.
All four of my rifles make awesome groups at 30 yards and if i’m shooting at close distances (like benchrest) that is great. Unfortunately I have to reach further if i’m going to get higher than second place in the national FT championship match (took first for the overall season last year with a USFT).
Nobody has really tested an Edgun and Cricket rifles in 22 at 125-150 yards indoors to see which one is better at the edges of accuracy. We have seen some 100m indoor shooting with the Edgun and from the targets I have seen they basically mimic what I see in 177, there is no indoor data on the Cricket however. And i’m not talking a few groups here and there, I have shot 100’s of groups with my rifles indoors, tracking velocity, and each tin from where the pellets were pulled.
Honestly I could give two shits about brand loyalty, i’m looking for PURE accuracy from my purchases, the Cricket at $1600 doesn’t stack up to the $2000 and $2500+ rifles. I still like it though, the platform is promising (I bought it because I can swap out the barrel far easier than with the Edgun) and I plan on getting a 24″ barrel so I can see if it’s the current barrel, the shroud or…? I may even just go for a 22 barrel so I can take advantage of the better pellet quality. I have modified the stock for a Anchutz rail and removed the factory (shit) buttpad so I could replace it with a MEC clone I made, no way any representative is going to take it back for a return and I simply don’t trust the guy who would “repair” it.
No offense, we are all “comrades” or friends if you prefer 😀
No offense taken, Tavaritsch !
Whether people have personal interrest behind this or are hiding their heads in the sand ; Well – there are several here from both camps and few doing both at the same time. 😆
Well the Yellow is the Yellow (with all due respect to the Yellow)
but also here we have some “yellowish” behaving friends, always there to justify and find explanations…..
I’m wondering if there is some personal interest behind this or just genuine blindness….
No offense, we are all “comrades” or friends if you prefer 😀
Right on W NZ ,,,,
i am one of his representatives for my country and still didn’t get any email from him as he mentioned the instructions went to the repress ….
not speaking as one of his reprs,,, never at all,,,, never did any apple polishing for any one in my live,,, but ,,,yes,,, he is the only friendly manufacturer around here or all the world …. i think no one can deny it…. he is probably busy that is why we cannot see his posts,,,
does anybody can put himself instead of him,,,and let see what can he does whit all the responsibility of a single business man and taking care of the family (really not easy) ,,,
i do hope the best for all of you (my brothers throughout the world) just wait and let see the result or future ,,, who knows????
let take it easy not like this ,…big respects for all of you my brothers …
Ed has spent lots of time on this forum answering questions. Oddly he has been absent since Machine Gun went mental on him. 😉 The one Cricket rep that was here used this as his own personal advertising space and never answered any questions. “Any” Cricket rep, you mean one of the two?
The Cricket I got from WWAG was “tuned and tested” by Peter (TGAG). Of course it was only tested to 30 yards, which is about as telling as testing someone’s spelling abilities by having them spell the word “and”.
I’ve had a bad experience with Peter/Boris (TGAG) and went through Steve only to not have to deal with AOA (and to avoid TGAG). I bought a high end FT competition pistol (from TGAG), was charged twice on my card and then run around the block trying to get a refund without having to have the bank do it. Eventually just had the bank do it since it was getting close to the deadline.
Pistol was supposed to be new (modified from a rifle), it had a screw that was stripped and jerry-rigged back in, the barrel was loose (along with a bunch of the breach screws) and it was shooting WAY over the power limit (12fpe), it had other signs that I was not the first owner. After about forty shots it lost air and would no longer hold a charge. I packaged it up (along with a custom stock I made) in a custom foam carrier that fit in a cardboard box. Talked to Peter, he said the valve kept blowing out the o-rings and he fixed it but it needed more testing. He tested it and it blew out the o-rings again, then he just stopped responding and a few weeks later I got a refund for the price of the pistol, my custom stock is ??, the box I made for it ??.
Fuck if I send my rifle into “that” situation… Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice… Yeah.
So really i’d rather deal with a rifle that shoots better right from the factory without having to go through all “that” again by sending it to Peter for work…
Say whatever you want about Ed, but don’t trick yourself into believing the alternative is any better.
I own four high end rifles and the Cricket costs the least and it shows. YMMV
It’s funny how people can have so opposite experiences. Your Cricket must be a real Lemon or something.
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Where is he these days anyway? I just realized i haven’t seen him around for a long time.
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Hi,
personally I very often compare the Eguns to the Theobens, both very well built, very good performing and overall more pros than cons. The Theobens had a better trigger, the Edgun a better regulator IMHO.
Loads of tuning/customization possibilities ending up with proud owners having very personal guns.
Well Theoben was a small factory as Edgun is and you all know that Theoben at a certain point got bankrupt, end of the story.
Others have taken up the remainings and probably today they are building even better guns than the originals were, they are just different.
What I’m trying to say is that sooner or later things will change, things on some fronts will improve (safety, technics, accuracy) on others they will probably get worse (quality, materials, etc), new playrs will come around.
Just take and shot your BPs as they are today, don’t pretend that this or that is the best brand today and will stay the best brand forever, things will change, there will be new players, there will be better tunings, etc, etc.
The price of the gun should be reflected only by the product itself and not by his myths. Any price increase should only be dictated by quality/performance improvements and so should be the price decreases (this never happened). Giving more credit or paying more just because it is of this or that brand is not in my books as is not in my books that the son of prince William is better than others just because of being of the royal family.
Running behind price increases just to fix financial short comings maybe will work once but certainly not forever and it will end up as it already did for others. Improve your quality, improve your service, improve your support, become customer friendly, generally do more business planning and probably (and hopefully) things will work out better.
Dear friends, just enjoy your rifles today, tomorrow probably they will look completely different while still having your old ones in the gun safes, world is moving forward.
Just my 2 cents.
ATB
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Hi WingM,
do you confirm Steyrs to be difficult to change power settings?
(Regulator and HST apparently not easily adjustable like on other rifles or is this just a rumor?)
Thanks in advance. 😀