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EDgun Matador R3 versus Kalibr Cricket, my comparison….

Hi guys,

Warning for those who don’t like images:

This is going to be a thread with lots of graphics….. 😉

As promised, I’ll try to share with you my personal opinion and findings while comparing these beauties:

As some of you may know, I have two Matador Std R3s and I have one Cricket (with access to another one). All are cal.22……

My wait for my Matadors should be well documented on this very forum…..

The Crickets were a part of a group buy masterminded from Europe somewhere. The Crickets were shipped in parts to Norway and reassembled by my good blueprinting friend Egon Olsen. In the process he had to remove a “restrictor” screw that had been put into the guns before shipment. Most probably because of Power limitation rules at origin….

The Crickets arrived with no documents whatsoever. No instructions, – no nothing. I don’t think this is standard procedure though…..

The Cricket weighs less than the R3, – and is approx 5 cm shorter. Not a lot, – but overall it makes the Cricket even easier to handle than the already tiny R3….

The side by side comparison was done from my modest little shooting table at my summerhouse:

– and the shooting range is here, – with my target set up at 46mts:

Why 46 mts ? Simply because I could not pull my shooting stand further back right now. A huge tree has fallen during winter, and all the branches have taken up my space… 👿

First problem: How to fill the f…. Cricket ?

The fillprobe nut is so tiny that a standard foster coupling gasket will not seal. The entire probe is small, – and you fear you may break it while trying to tighten it:

The above (sorry for the image quality) is a comparison between ED’s, Cricket’s and Falcon’s fill probes. You can probably see what I mean….

As I could not make a standard Fostergasket fit, Egon had to make special gaskets that we fitted into the Foster coupling itself. Not an ideal solution, – and I have no clue how long it will last…….. 🙄

On the fill probe: Matador 1, Cricket 0 points.

Air filling:

I honestly dont like any of the solutions that these two manufacturers have chosen………..

The Cricket people have come up with the worst. To expose the hole for the fillprobe, – you have to slide forward the tip of the reservoir. But that stupid tip is retained by a spring, – and slides back with a smack once you let go:

If you’re not careful when taking the fillprobe back out, the tip will spring back and ruin the fill probe O-rings faster than I can say my name….

While filling, the “tip” rests on the previously mentioned small nut. And there’s not a lot clearance. So a bigger nut (for those with lathe skills), – is not going to help you much. A thicker nut might…….

In short: A very stupid filling system, – BUT once you know how to operate it and care is taken, – at least it covers the hole when filling is over.

The Matador does not come with anything to cover the filling hole at all:

I use tape right now, – but a plug of some sort would be good….. 😉

My preferred system would be that of Falcon:

The tip of the reservoir has been turned into a curled “collar” that you rotate to expose the hole. Simple, easy and effective. And few moving parts that may break or go astray……….

Now, I have no idea how much air I can fill into the Cricket, – and the gun gauge certainly does not help much:

I trust the gauge on my fillkit, – and 3000 psi is roughly on the border between green and yellow…….

Points for airfill procedure: Matador 1, Cricket 0. In my opinion….. 😉

Cheers from Trygve 😀

To be continued……….. 😀

(if you so desire…… 😳 )

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Thanks Hoot,
much appreciated! I’ll give that a try tomorrow!

Wrap the shroud in duct tape, several layers, six at least.

Put a hose clamp around it, and tighten it as tight as possible.

Using either a hex end nut driver, or a pair of vice grips, grasp the nut on the hose clamp.

Turn counter-clock-wise as hard as you can, or until it breaks loose, or the hose clamp begins to slip.

I even wrapped my air cylinder with layers of duct tape, and put a pipe wrench on it and gave it all I had.

Result: Perhaps it comes off, perhaps it stays on. This is one of your best chances to not ruin it cosmetically, but still get it off.

H 😯 😯 T

I tried with the leather belt and…. Nothing…

Until now it’s unremovable..!! Damned!

How am I supposed to clean it now??

There have apparently been quite a few problems related to the R3s as we have seen them on this forum. However apparently nothing that cannot be fixed one way or the other. In most cases by ourselves. Thanks to OldGoat and not to forget ED himself…….

It’s gonna be interesting to see what sort of problems will arise from the import of Crickets that is just around the corner….

Will aftermarket service/advice be just as good from the Cricketeers, – or will silence be just as prevailing as we have seen it in this thread…..????

I have a feeling that the Cricketeers may be up for a challenge….. 😉

😀

Ed, thanks for responding 😀

Kazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, has it occurred to you that the problem with unscrewing your front shroud might lie in your Avatar which is bound to be making your hands (or at least one of them :wink:) too shaky 😯

😆

And what about my problem, Ed???

🙂

quote kazzz:

I still need to get my shroud off of the R3 🙁

For me the biggest problem of it:
EASY cleaning the gun!

Where fire arms are so easy to disassemble, the are airgun so hard 🙁

That said: my shroud won’t come off! Even not soaking in ballistol etc.. And I don’t want to make too big forces on because could do some miss alignment with the barrel. 🙁

It can be, seldom thing but happens. You should use lather belt to unscrew it and don’t be afraid to use force.

quote kazzz:

I still need to get my shroud off of the R3 🙁

For me the biggest problem of it:
EASY cleaning the gun!

Where fire arms are so easy to disassemble, the are airgun so hard 🙁

That said: my shroud won’t come off! Even not soaking in ballistol etc.. And I don’t want to make too big forces on because could do some miss alignment with the barrel. 🙁

Let’s hear some advice from ED on this one. It should NOT be like that… 🙄

ED ??? 😀

LocTite can be used under the head of the fastener instead of on the threads.

I still need to get my shroud off of the R3 🙁

For me the biggest problem of it:
EASY cleaning the gun!

Where fire arms are so easy to disassemble, the are airgun so hard 🙁

That said: my shroud won’t come off! Even not soaking in ballistol etc.. And I don’t want to make too big forces on because could do some miss alignment with the barrel. 🙁

If you look closely at the upper image above, – you’ll notice there once has been a sticker covering the front screw…..

I understand why…..

If you overtighten that screw, you run the risk of “jamming” the entire indexing system. I have tried that with the result that the indexing pin would not move……. 😥

So in my case that screw needs a very careful touch when tightening it. It actually has to remain quite loose for the system to work. Hence the need for a sticker….

Some marine silicone on the threads fixes the problem and/or a sticker/tape to secure it…… 😉

But quite obviously this quite complex mechanism remains the weakest part of the Cricket, – at least on mine….

I recall another thread in here some time back about a Cricket that would not index. However I can’t find it right now. Has it been deleted ? 🙄

Cheers 😀

I’ve found that a tiny, tiny bit of clear silicone adhesive, placed on the bottom of the screw head, with perhaps a Q-tip, or toothpick, can secure that screw, yet you can still remove it with almost no extra effort. (wipe surfaces down with alcohol b/4 application)

I suppose some loc-tite, or epoxy, would do the same, but a really thin layer of silicone seems to be well suited, and you can wipe off any excess with a tissue. Being pliable, it resists vibrations.

Just a thought.

H 😯 😯 T

Me again:

Having passed several thousand shots through both guns, I’ve gained some experience. But as you know, I only have one “Lady Cricket” and others may see her differently…… 😉

I have to admit I like her a lot. She is small. easy to handle (once you get used to her) and weighs less than the R3……….

But she is also scary…….. 🙄

A few days ago I found a small screw on my floor that looked suspicious…..

Now, – do you remember this:

This is the right side of the aft breech block/bolt assembly/multishot action.

What I found is that the front screw of the panel covering all the “fun” had unscrewed itself. Luckily my beautiful Polish cleaners have not been in here for a while and thanks God for that. The screw was secured and I put it back….

But then I decided to remove the panel, – and while the front screw was loose enough, – it took some effort to get the other one out. But I managed. The screw at the back is veeeery short and had probably been stuck with some Loctite or friends…….

Wth the panel removed, – this is how she looks:

While certainly a fine piece of engineering, – to me this looks scary. There are lots of small parts that have to work together for the gun to function properly. And with my fingers, – I have no chance in hell to dismantle/put back these parts if ever needed………. 😳

Also I am doubtful to how long the side lever linkage will last. It looks a bit “thin” as does the side lever itself. The latter you soon get to realize could have been a bit wider. As it is right now, it bites into your fingers after a few hundred shots. Not nearly as comfy as that of HW100 (or AA 510 for that matter)….. 😉

I put some grease in there and put the panel back on……..

And so far so good, – she has not malfuntioned once…… 😀

Cheers… 😀

quote Hoot:

He’s probably beginning to curse the day he even mentioned a new valve!

Perhaps he will release an Edgun magazine kit to take people’s minds off the valve.

H 😯 😯 T

Haha 😛

He’s probably beginning to curse the day he even mentioned a new valve!

Perhaps he will release an Edgun magazine kit to take people’s minds off the valve.

H 😯 😯 T

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