Haley Scandalous, initial fill pressures and bore dimensions

Guys, firelapping does improve the barrel interior.

But don’t go firelapping that rifle as soon as you get it. Wait until you shoot it for awhile.

And this is just not for a Haley but anything custom you do to a new rifle, especially a air rifle.

I will be sending my Haley back to Jack on Monday so that I can have him set it up with additional springs like Jon Bowman has to fire at different fill levels for different bullet weights.

This will also give me more of a choice of power levels.

Specificaly I want to shoot heavier bullets, my rifle seems to prefer them, and will need to be able to open that valve at near 4500 PSI to do what I want it to do

On my XPAirguns Ranger I have 3 different power levels, that are accessable by installing screws on the trigger/bolt system, the Haley does not have that, so hence the extra springs.

Only two levels are available at one time on the Ranger, hi and low, if you want medium you have to take the rifle out of the stock and install the medium setting screw and reassemble, them you only have the medium option.

But you find out right away that on high power using lighter bullets that you are wasting air on the Ranger.

And I think I am doing that with the lighter 56 grain bullets on the Haley.

I am having Jack do this for the same reason I am not diving into doing the barrel firelapping, if something comes up that needs warrantee service on what is now a new gun, I would rather he be the one that has been inside it rather than me and my hamfists voiding a warrantee.

Also a problem that I have with both rifles is barrel band alingment when I take that barrel band off, I have a bitch of a time trying to get it centered, perhaps it is my one eye, perhaps it is just a problem with the design.

At one time I considered having a 2nd barrel band made for the Ranger 45 that was like a Crosman Discovery/2240 band, inletting it into the stock and glassing it in so that the alignment process would always be the same ont the Ranger, but I never did and made a indexing mark instead.

The Haley barrel band which has set screws on either side, has a option for a third hole and scew on the bottom. I am going to have Jack drill a hole there that also acts as a alighment mark on the QD filling housing, or where the nipple screw into it, so I know the exact center.

If your on a hunt and you have to remove that band to change a fill nipple O ring, or you find it is not as tight as you though it was and the band moves during the trip to your hunting site, if that band is not where you had it when you sighted the rifle in, it will shoot to a radically different spot with these long tubed big bore designs

Now I could always do all this myself, but what I have found with air guns, regardless of the price, there is always something that comes up with them that needs fixed, whether it is a FX, a Daystate,a Ranger or that new Evanix we all drooled over and have found that it just does not work at $2000. a pop.

If you have reshaped the stock, altered the hammer and springs to what you want, polished the trigger, polished raceways and specifically firelapped the barrel you really can’t expect the maker to try and fix a problem that may come up after you have been screwing with it for a month or so.

And I am ham fisted, I have a drill press but I have had holes wander when I drill them Dyotat does most of my work these days for this very reason, not the warrantee issue, but the fact I am ham fisted.

My FX Royale 500 Carbine is just one such example. When I got it back from AOA after they installed the regulator, the cover and lense fell off the gauge. They did not inform me I would have to shorten the stock screw on the stock bolt assembly, because they had replaced the non venting one with a venting one, when I tried to get it to stop leaking as a result, I over tightened it and broke the stock bolt ferrel off in the action.

Ultimately AOA would replace the stockbolt assembly under warrantee, but not the gauge they had obviously messed up, I had had it too long and done too much to it.

The price of a gauge did not break me, however, I learned something. And I am passing it on to you, when you get your Haley or any air rifle, shoot it as is until you see that everything works. If you want to alter it, have the fellow who made it or the factory do the altering.

Now with fire lapping we have been speaking of, if my rilfe suddenly developed a accuracy problem before I had shot it and benchmarked the accuracy level and I wanted Jack to take it back with that new shiny firelapped barrel I done. I would not expect him to give me a new barrel like XPAirguns did when I noticed that it was rough. Had I firelaped that barrel and the damage had not been fixed by firelapping, I would have been in a fix.

If I tried all sorts of new springs I purchased from McMaster carr and the rifle suddenly lost power or had battered itself inside, who’s doorstep would that one land on?

So while I am off at the coast, Jack is going to be going thru my rifle, trying out new springs and drilling that indexing hole in the barrel band so I can align it.

Regards,

Roachcreek

I pushed lead bullets to 1850 in a 338 and 340, but then I never shot more than 10 to 15 before through scrubbing.

I took paper patch to 2200 FPS in the 4570 Ruger # 1, but that just pollishes the bore, and you did not want to shoot more than 5 before seeking medical treatment. Forget about reloading the brass on that one.

PB shooters have improved their tendancy to resist leading barrels, but I doubt they have solved it.

RC