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Making the .25 Edgun quiet, easily and inexpensively…

The key to the Edgun .25 making less noise is reducing the air pressure at the muzzle. There are a few ways to do this without engaging in exotic baffle designs, or spending money on an aftermarket shroud or moderator.

Here’s how it’s done:

The first step is to remove both the baffle cover, which is unscrewed counter clockwise, by hand, then removing the bottom shroud by removing the barrel bushing/vent nut. Then you can easily enlarge the existing vent holes at the rear of the Edgun shroud with a variable speed hand drill. I made my lower shroud vent holes 2.0mm in diameter:

You can go larger if you wish. If you go too large and begin to hear air “whoosh” out of the vent holes when firing, just wrap some felt around the inside of the shroud, behind the vent holes, to slow the air down. You can touch them up with the tip of a permanent ink black felt tip Sharpie. This is how they look when done, but before the Sharpie touchup:

The next step is to increase the air flow from the front of the Edgun to the rear of the shroud. Now on the R3 this is a bit more complicated because the shroud comes in two parts, so I will concentrate on the R3. Unscrew the top shroud, baffle cover, taking care to remove it easily because the O-ring can be damaged on the threads. Be sure to put silicone grease that O-ring before putting it back on. Note the bottom shroud, and barrel, are held in place by a 19mm nut with vent holes in it. It unscrews easily, counter-clockwise, with a common metric wrench:

After it is taken off, you then enlarge the holes in the nut with a variable speed drill. I went 2.5mm, you may choose to go smaller, but not much larger, as the hole diameter affects the strength of the nut.

After this is done, you simply replace the bottom shroud, then the barrel bushing, being certain that the bottom of the shroud is properly placed OVER the rim of the permanent cone shaped breech attachment. If you ignore this step, you will bend the bottom of the shroud when you tighten the nut…note the bottom of the shroud sitting flush against the cone shaped breech attachment in this picture. The hidden rim inside the shroud is about 1/8″ or so tall, but it must have the shroud placed evenly over it before tightening the nut. When you lift up and remove the bottom shroud, you will easily spot it, as the cone shaped breech attachment remains in place:

Finally, there has been much discussion regarding how much torque must be used to tighten the nut that holds the barrel and bottom shroud in place. This is not a difficult process. First you obtain a Russian Torque Wrench…see below picture:

Placing the 19mm wrench in this handy grasping tool, you tighten the nut to where it is snug against the shroud, then you go roughly 1/2 turn further. That’s all it takes. Remember, this is thin and fairly soft aluminum and will strip threads or bend rather easily. AND…if you have placed the bottom of the barrel shroud over the lip of the cone shaped breech attachment, you will not have bent, or dented, the bottom of the shroud.

Replacing the top shroud (baffle cover) is easily done, just be careful sliding the cover over the O-ring using a light downward pressure and clockwise screwing motion until it gets past the threads on the cover. Snug it up hand tight, no more.

That’s it! You can expect at least a 50% reduction in muzzle blast, which on the Long Edgun makes the hammer slap the loudest noise emitted when shooting the gun. It costs nothing, takes about 1/2 hour, a couple of metric bits, and a variable speed hand drill. Take your time. The existing holes will guide the bit if you proceed slowly, especially when starting the new hole.

Now, for that hammer slap…I’m still working on that one.

Regards,

Kindly ‘Ol Uncle H 😯 😯 t

EdGun

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Hey Hoot,

I’m going to do the same on my R3 .25 long so I can shot it in my backyard without getting notice my the neighbors.
Currently, it’s too loud to comfortably shoot. When I let off a shot, I feel like a guy is going to shout “stop shooting or I’ll call the cops!!” I don’t need that kind of aggravation. OTOH, I can shoot my Clague modded cricket all day.

Question: When removing the baffle assembly with the 19mm wrench, do you simply unscrew it without taking the receiver off the tube?

Thanks dude,

Gabe

quote mikedoh:

Is that the Simple Desultory Philippic Russian torque wrench?

Yes. I found it lying in the road on the way home from my AA group meeting. The thumb doesn’t work all that well, but well enough for light work. Oddly, the middle finger keeps rising on it’s own. Probably a battery issue.

Hoot

Is that the Simple Desultory Philippic Russian torque wrench?

quote Demp223:

Absolutly no ill effect on accuracy.
I have over 30k pellets through 22 and over 10k in 25. They have been well vetted on accuracy potential and this mod only reduces sound level 🙂

Demp is absolutely correct!

My results were the same. On both the Cricket and the Edgun. Accuracy was absolutely unaffected by the change.

The pellet is long gone before any of the residual air dynamics takes place in the shroud. The key to less noise has always been less air pressure instantaneously released from the muzzle.

I first tried this mod on my Marauders a couple of years ago and it produced the same results, as it did on the Air Force shrouds that I drilled holes into the bottom of the shroud and vented into the foregrip.

It works. Now, if we could only figure out how to knock down that hammer slap….

Absolutly no ill effect on accuracy.
I have over 30k pellets through 22 and over 10k in 25. They have been well vetted on accuracy potential and this mod only reduces sound level 🙂

Dear Hot & Demp;

Have you tested your guns before and after this process regarding accuracy?
Does it effect the accuracy of the gun?
or this is just reducing sound report?

Thanks and great job,

I found that a second row of holes along with internal packing noticeably reduced down the 25 Long report to almost that of 22 Long. The enlarging of stripper holes definitly helped get the air from front to back.
Enlarging just rear vents on 22 also works amazingly well.

My test results=== http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=26316

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Very Good work and documentation.

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