Matador R4
For those who is waiting for it, bad news. We got problems with production and I doubt we will have it ready at least until the end of the year 🙁
Sorry for that.
With the best regards
Ed
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I know my friend and with a pcp you even get ripped-off on the air price 😀
Sorry man you are wrong.
For this amount you can have an H&K MR223 or H&K MR308 :8:
Make an extra effort and add an ACOG and you are good for life :4:
(I call this an outstanding life insurance and zombie basher and what is good for zombies is good for any kind of game 😀 )
Honestly I’ve always wondered why US people having all this firearms freedom are wasting their time and money with airguns/pcps ❓
Would we have free and easy access to firearms also here in Europe then only my 6 years old nephew would have a 50 USD airgun.
You US bros don’t value your freedom IMHO.
Sorry Bud but you are wrong!
I’m going to Echo Keyser on this one. We value our Freedom very much. So much, that my personal armament can supply my family, your family, heck probably my neighborhood. I have class 3 suppression for my battle weapons down to my .22’s. I can mouse fart rounds all day long and much cheaper than PCP’s. I chose to shoot PCP because I can. I enjoy testing my environmental factors and doing calculations using PCP because I can do it without traveling to a long range area and testing my “Real Rifles”. Not to mention they make a really loud noise (even with suppressors) and hurt your “Rink Ronk” when you shoot too much. So…. please don’t assume that we don’t value our freedom. Our Firearms are why we do have freedom and most people I know have them..
No hard feelings….. :winkn:
Exziver out~
Apparently you value your freedom, congrats :8:
(But a silenced rimfire with subsonic ammo is quieter than a pcp 😀 )
Sorry man you are wrong.
For this amount you can have an H&K MR223 or H&K MR308 :8:
Make an extra effort and add an ACOG and you are good for life :4:
(I call this an outstanding life insurance and zombie basher and what is good for zombies is good for any kind of game 😀 )
Honestly I’ve always wondered why US people having all this firearms freedom are wasting their time and money with airguns/pcps ❓
Would we have free and easy access to firearms also here in Europe then only my 6 years old nephew would have a 50 USD airgun.
You US bros don’t value your freedom IMHO.
Sorry Bud but you are wrong!
I’m going to Echo Keyser on this one. We value our Freedom very much. So much, that my personal armament can supply my family, your family, heck probably my neighborhood. I have class 3 suppression for my battle weapons down to my .22’s. I can mouse fart rounds all day long and much cheaper than PCP’s. I chose to shoot PCP because I can. I enjoy testing my environmental factors and doing calculations using PCP because I can do it without traveling to a long range area and testing my “Real Rifles”. Not to mention they make a really loud noise (even with suppressors) and hurt your “Rink Ronk” when you shoot too much. So…. please don’t assume that we don’t value our freedom. Our Firearms are why we do have freedom and most people I know have them..
No hard feelings….. :winkn:
Exziver out~
What is not a rip off in todays society?
Please let me still add that we don’t speak about olympic rifles but about a rifle that is able to drop a critter at up to 100 yards distance and any rimfire in the 300-500 USD price range is able to do this and the gun is “independent” meaning that you can easily carry around 500 rounds without any problem.
To shoot a critter up to 100 yards you already need a high end pcp, plus a tank, a filling hose, etc, etc, now add up everything and tell me how many USD you need to invest more compared to a rimfire (I believe at this point overpriced is even not the right word, “ridicolously and exaggeratedly rip-off overpriced” probably gives a better idea).
You simply can’t compare a pcp to a firearm from a “total cost of ownership” point of view and you can’t compare them from a “performance and utility” level point of view not to speak about the pcp being dependent on an air source.
PCPs fill a gap and this is where you can’t get or you are not allowed to own firearms but still like shooting at an “almost real thing” level.
In short for comparison purposes, a firearm is like a “woman” and a pcp is like an “inflatable sex doll” :rofl:
:2cents:
Freedom is the only reason I brother with air rifles. If I lived in a place where I coud get a real rifle with a SILENCER just as easily as I can now get a PCP I would not know what PCP stood for :rofl:
I can share part of your point of view Keyser no problem with that.
But when we compare a quality firearm with a quality pcp price wise I still consider the pcp to be way overpriced.
And speaking about metropolitan area please don’t consider shooting with a pcp to be “safe”.
I didn’t mean any offence by saying “you don’t value your freedom” referred to the possibility to own firearms but like you did I will speak for myself and would I be american then I would enjoy the freedom to own and to shoot firearms as much as I can because sooner or later it will be over and then probably I will have only pcp trigger time. (IMHO)
100 rounds chargers, 30 rounds, 10 rounds, 0 rounds, legislation countdown has already started.
Why would an American buy a PCP? Because he can… We value our freedom, you are out of line with this statement. I don’t know a grown American man who does’t own a battle rifle.
So rather than speak for everyone I’ll speak for myself. In the USA there is a stigma about”pellet guns”. They are toys, and not capable weapons. This idea is important because the owner of a PCP gun is granted access to hunting where a firearm would be prohibited. I do pest control on cattle farms and golf courses. There is no way in hell the farmer would allow me to shoot a .22 LR near his cattle. To him it makes no difference if I say I’ll be safe, the answer will be no. If I tell the farmer I’ll be shooting the pests with a pellet gun he usually asks “well will it kill the critter?” The second part of the equation is living in or near a large metropolitan area. The PCP gun give the rifleman trigger time without having to travel far to a range.
Regarding the cost of PCP guns. They can be cheap too. The Marauder is inexpensive and so are some Korean guns. It depends on what the consumer is satisfied with. There are target rifles that far exceed the cost of a PCP rifle.. So when comparing PCPs and firearms it is wise to compare like items.
Finally, it is not fair to compare prices in the USA to places like Lebanon.
Sorry man you are wrong.
For this amount you can have an H&K MR223 or H&K MR308 :8:
Make an extra effort and add an ACOG and you are good for life :4:
(I call this an outstanding life insurance and zombie basher and what is good for zombies is good for any kind of game 😀 )
Honestly I’ve always wondered why US people having all this firearms freedom are wasting their time and money with airguns/pcps ❓
Would we have free and easy access to firearms also here in Europe then only my 6 years old nephew would have a 50 USD airgun.
You US bros don’t value your freedom IMHO.
No Gun is worth 3100 USD, find a different gun or a different hobby…
2875$??? not so bad, here in Argentina is 2550 (on sale/special offer) regular price is 3100. This represents 5.5 months of minimum wage (7 for regular price). just to get anything inside the country you have to pay 50% tax. :sadn: add the shipping + importer cut, and some how you end whit 2550??? or 3100??? i wanted one for so long, i guest i will just keep wanting them. :biggrinn:
Here in lebanon the aluminum magz cost 50$ at dealer [emoji849]
I want to ask Ed
The magz also need paper and they cannot ship it and restrictions and this shits ?
Another Edgun BARGAIN! :rofl:
(Sorry man you don’t know why I am saying this but probably also those have the magic secret tune :rofl: )
I bought R3M magazines from ebay and they arrived in 3 weeks.
I know, and quite sure, the .30cal Matador R4M will be the most selling gun,,, i have my friend’s .30cal STD,, i amazed for its outstanding accuracy,,, amazing,, i believe if there is someone has a good shooting skills he will not lose any shot with .30cal Edgun ,,, i tried +180 mtrs ,,,the accuracy is outstanding …my friend (the owner of .30cal Edgun) tried behind 280 mtrs he is quite satisfied …
so, i know the 30 cal Matador with multi shot version and side cocking leaver would be the unique BP for hunting purposes …
Brother kitoko,,,you are right,,,i live in the most restricted country on this planet for my 1st Edgun i spent about 2 years emailing with Eduard and shipping companies in order to find the way how to start shipping and no one was sure about the result,,, when the gun shipped and landed i was still not sure that my Edgun reached the airport until i went and touch it LOL :biggrinn: ,,, after one month still was like a dream for me,,,i was not sure whether it is real or dream..OMG i got my Matador … i had more than 400 emails send/back with Eduard for the 1st gun … i spent lots of money .. lots of money” in deed “… for several purposes which i cannot mention for you guys SORRY,,, Ed is aware of some of my situation ,,,, after that i found how to work and start with shipping companies to persuade them to start and ship my package then it will be my responsibility if my shipment is stuck or lost in anywhere … so ,, my situation was zero or 1 … no insurance …not clear what will happen ,,, all shipping companies rejected to ship air rifles to Iraq,,, then i found one and all processed on my responsibility … if succeed then i still have to face the most difficult step the security of my city airport … they don’t know even this is a PCP…some of them told me it is a shotgun you imported what is the hell ???? :angrymob: so,,working with such mentality and try explain to persuade them this is not a shotgun or a firearms it is just an air rifle…it is very hard and sometime the shipment will be taken/reserved by security department ,,,,
so, let say my business is not guaranteed at all,,, what i wrote for you is a teaspoon of the ocean of my stories every time ….
and the price here was slightly higher than Lebanon … only for my 1st, 2nd, and 3rd batches of my shipments,,, but know i will sell them for $2,500 … if i will be free of headache for importing like USA or other countries ,,, i may be able to sell for about $ 1,800 or 1,900 UDS …. i am paying about +550 euro shipping cost for each gun …. consider this also …
finally the prices is something that Eduard has nothing to do with ..it totally depends on the dealers and the formalities and other fees, taxes belong to each country rules …
even last time the only company that ship to me refused to ship to Iraq,,,Eduard found one company for me and he helped me … the experience that i had/have with Eduard is something not forgettable and not expected to get from any other manufacturer …. if you comparing me to USA dealer,,, im nothing ,,, i ordered only 15 matadors till today … but still Ed treat me very kindly …
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Just take it easy, you’re all lucky than me .In VietNam we have to pay 4500usd for an Edgun (Airgun is banned in VietNam). Money is not the matter, the matter is if we don’t pay, we will have nothing to play :8: