New Jersey Gun Law and Talon SS
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I just purchased a Talon SS from Pyramid Air which was delivered to a firearms dealer in NJ recently. When I went to pickup the rifle I was told it was illegal in NJ and I had to exchange the rifle. According to the dealer the rifle is considered a sawed-off-shotgun due to it’s barrel lenngth. Any shotgun with a barrel length under 18 inches or rifle with a barrel lenth under 16 inches is considered a sawed-off-shotgun which is illegal in NJ. In NJ all BB\Pellet airguns atre considered a firearm. Barrel length is measured from breach to muzzle.
As the dealer said he recently discovered this through research can anyone verify or deny this law?
Does anyone own a Talon SS in NJ?
Considering this law as valid. What would be my best option as an exchange? I plan on using only in back yard for target and plinking. I had ordered a .177. Pyramid Air mentioned possibly ordering a larger barrel. I would have to see if the dealer is willing to replace the barrel.
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It shall also include, … a bullet or missile smaller than three-eighths of an inch in diameter, with sufficient force to injure a person.
That just does not make any sense, either it’s just pure stupidity or they might have meant LARGER than 3/8″.
Ficking idiots, god knows how they come up with these brainfarts they turn into laws and regulations.
best option if the SS cant be purchased (armed with the info above you should be OK); will be getting the 18″ barrel and having it shortened to 16 to fit within the stock frame.
Found some definitions here:
http://www.njguns.com/define.htm
The talonss would be a firearm and need a permit/license to purchase.
It would NOT fall into the category of “sawed off shotgun” as it is written; definition pertains to “shotguns” and “rifles” or firearms made from shotguns and rifles, definitions below.
Airgun is a firearm, but not a Rifle after reading the below several times.
f. “Firearm” means any handgun, rifle, shotgun, machine gun, automatic or semi-automatic rifle, or any gun, device or instrument in the nature of a weapon from which may be fired or ejected any solid projectable ball, slug, pellet, missile or bullet, or any gas, vapor or other noxious thing, by means of a cartridge or shell or by the action of an explosive or the igniting of flammable or explosive substances. It shall also include, without limitation, any firearm which is in the nature of an air gun, spring gun or pistol or other weapon of a similar nature in which the propelling force is a spring, elastic band, carbon dioxide, compressed or other gas or vapor, air or compressed air, or is ignited by compressed air, and ejecting a bullet or missile smaller than three-eighths of an inch in diameter, with sufficient force to injure a person
g. “Firearm silencer” means any instrument, attachment, weapon or appliance for causing the firing of any gun, revolver, pistol or other firearm to be silent, or intended to lessen or muffle the noise of the firing of any gun, revolver, pistol or other firearm.
m. “Rifle” means any firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder and using the energy of the explosive in a fixed metallic cartridge to fire a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger.
n. “Shotgun” means any firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder and using the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of ball shots or a single projectile for each pull of the trigger, or any firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder which does not fire fixed ammunition.
o. “Sawed-off shotgun” means any shotgun having a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length measured from the breech to the muzzle, or a rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length measured from the breech to the muzzle, or any firearm made from a rifle or a shotgun, whether by alteration, or otherwise, if such firearm as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches.
Good luck with your purchase
I just purchased a Talon SS from Pyramid Air which was delivered to a firearms dealer in NJ recently. When I went to pickup the rifle I was told it was illegal in NJ and I had to exchange the rifle. According to the dealer the rifle is considered a sawed-off-shotgun due to it’s barrel lenngth. Any shotgun with a barrel length under 18 inches or rifle with a barrel lenth under 16 inches is considered a sawed-off-shotgun which is illegal in NJ. In NJ all BB\Pellet airguns atre considered a firearm. Barrel length is measured from breach to muzzle.
As the dealer said he recently discovered this through research can anyone verify or deny this law?
Does anyone own a Talon SS in NJ?
Considering this law as valid. What would be my best option as an exchange? I plan on using only in back yard for target and plinking. I had ordered a .177. Pyramid Air mentioned possibly ordering a larger barrel. I would have to see if the dealer is willing to replace the barrel.
I never heard an air gun refered to as a firearm.
Firearm = fire (powder)
Air is not fire, however, the sheeple are taking our rights away faster than I can keep up with.
If this is all true, please let us know.
If it is, I would go with an SS with a 18″ bbl and then add a shroud from Don as it only adds a couple of inches, but is super quiet, no one will know you are plinking (much, much quieter than a stock SS
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That just does not make any sense, either it’s just pure stupidity or they might have meant LARGER than 3/8″.
Ficking idiots, god knows how they come up with these brainfarts they turn into laws and regulations.
yup ❗ glad I’m not in NJ. Reading the above, it could be stretched/interpreted to even include a slingshot as a “firearm”
But I do think he is in the clear to buy the TSS.