OIL,OIL, TOIL and trouble
This oil spill in the gulf has been going on for about one month now.
This is going to reach catastropic proportions if it hasnt already .
I thought some of the guys on here could put thier evil genius 😈 to good use .
does anyone have any good or bad ideas that they think might slow down or stop this ??
Im no engineer , but first I would remove BP and and anyone else involved from the picture .
As they have a certain amount of time money and may pose a conflict of interest in getting this done quickly.
I dunno, if thats true or not , but lets start new .
Ok My idea , (maybe it wouldnt work , I dunno ) would be to dump 30 or 40 cargo ships full of gravel and 1 ton blocks of stone . just keep dumping till it stops .
In an attempt to smother it . then apply some some type of concrete to seal it .
re drill (I know) next to it, or tap it . to remove pressure .
Im no engineer man , just shooting it out there to you evil geniuses who might be able to springboard off that . I know some of you fucks are clever enough to get it done
whats your ideas ? Cause BP doesnt have any .
waiting till the well runs dry (literaly) isnt an option .
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But what if the solution is right under our noses? What if it’s already sitting in the Gulf? John Hofmeister, the former president of Shell Oil, and Nick Pozzi, a former pipeline engineering and operations project manager for Saudi Aramco, think it might be.
According to Hofmeister, oil supertankers could be used to suck up massive amounts of oil–possibly millions of barrels at a time.
In an interview with FastCompany.com, Hofmeister explained that a little-known Saudi oil spill from an offshore platform in the early 1990s dumped more crude into the sea than any spill in U.S. history (think hundreds of millions of gallons). But the government and local press kept it quiet. And that’s why one of the big fixes in the Saudi oil spill–the oil-skimming supertanker–hasn’t been publicized.
“[They] figured out how to deploy supertankers that had the ability to both intake and discharge liquids in vast quantities with huge pumps,” Hofmeister explained. “The supertankers could simply suck in seawater and oil simultaneously–they can hold millions of barrels–and when full, they could discharge oil at a port into tanks where they could separate oil from water. The idea is novel in that you can get massive of oil amounts quickly.” Once the supertankers make it to to the port, water can be treated and discharged, and oil can either be used or destroyed.
Pozzi saw the technique used in the Middle East, where it recovered 85% of the oil from the Saudi spill. And he thinks it could work in the Gulf of Mexico. “The only downside is that you tie up oil tankers. That’s why we think that BP won’t listen to us. They don’t want to spend that extra money.”
After learning about the supertanker technique a few weeks ago, Hofmeister decided to bring it to the government’s attention. “I’ve been trying to connect engineers with decision-makers at the Coast Guard and in the interior department,” he said.
Pozzi and his business partner Jon King have also tried to contact officials, with no luck. “I called the President of BP, got his secretary and then got a call from a lady inside the building we were standing outside of. We never really heard back from her. Nick also knew some people and got one of the men in charge of the spill. He threatened to sue Nick for not going through channels,” King said.
But even if BP and the government both approve the technique, it will take a while before it can be implemented. “A lot of these supertankers are sitting on the ocean full of oil. How do you get them empty? It may take some time to organize,” Hofmeister explained. And, of course, organizers will have to make sure that the supertankers don’t crash into each other. All the more reason to get started now.
BP would be wise to listen to Pozzi, who has 40 years of experience in the oil and gas industry. “It’s what you can’t see that’s going to hurt you for years to come. What you see now is just the tip of the iceberg,” he said.
Hofmeister, however, has confidence in the oil spill cleanup effort. “There are 13,000 people organized and engaged at cleaning up this spill. It’s kind of remarkable to put that kind of task force together in this kind of time frame,” he said. “I think there are very smart people managing this process.”
Speaking of that process, BP’s latest video as been released, and it shows the failed attempt to lower the cofferdam over the gushing well. Remember, this thing is 98 tons and 40 feet tall. Puts that spewing pipe in perspective.
Dude you dont think big business is in bed with Washington????
If you belive that then you ll belive anything . Of course they are!! its not even a damm secret. Jesus!!
Uh, that’s a clean up process, we were talking about the experts PLUGGING the hole… 😕
Of course BP is lying about the quantity… Who wouldn’t. 😯 Why do you think they moved the probe when they said the top kill was working…
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Since BP’s Deepwater Horizon rig exploded into one of the worst man-made ecological disasters in history, one big question has remained unanswered: Just how big of a mess is it? While BP asserts there’s no way to know, marine experts say that if the oil giant would but release more video from its submersible ROVs and provide a little data on the well itself, they could deduce the magnitude of the leak, as well as inform the effort to plug the leaking well pipe.
Timothy Crane of the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory — an expert on natural sea-floor jets — told the Guardian a full suite of information on the leaking pipe and some additional video could give him and other researchers all they need to make an informed estimation:
“If they took about 20 or 30 seconds of video with a very specific purpose of measuring flow rates, which means having the ROV [remotely operated vehicle] stay completely still or parked on the bottom, and you got video of the plume close to the leak, and if it was illuminated and with high resolution, then you could get pretty good estimates of the flow rates.”
Sorry Timmy !!
Here’s 2 for starters :
But what if the solution is right under our noses? What if it’s already sitting in the Gulf? John Hofmeister, the former president of Shell Oil, and Nick Pozzi, a former pipeline engineering and operations project manager for Saudi Aramco, think it might be.
According to Hofmeister, oil supertankers could be used to suck up massive amounts of oil–possibly millions of barrels at a time.
In an interview with FastCompany.com, Hofmeister explained that a little-known Saudi oil spill from an offshore platform in the early 1990s dumped more crude into the sea than any spill in U.S. history (think hundreds of millions of gallons). But the government and local press kept it quiet. And that’s why one of the big fixes in the Saudi oil spill–the oil-skimming supertanker–hasn’t been publicized.
“[They] figured out how to deploy supertankers that had the ability to both intake and discharge liquids in vast quantities with huge pumps,” Hofmeister explained. “The supertankers could simply suck in seawater and oil simultaneously–they can hold millions of barrels–and when full, they could discharge oil at a port into tanks where they could separate oil from water. The idea is novel in that you can get massive of oil amounts quickly.” Once the supertankers make it to to the port, water can be treated and discharged, and oil can either be used or destroyed.
Pozzi saw the technique used in the Middle East, where it recovered 85% of the oil from the Saudi spill. And he thinks it could work in the Gulf of Mexico. “The only downside is that you tie up oil tankers. That’s why we think that BP won’t listen to us. They don’t want to spend that extra money.”
After learning about the supertanker technique a few weeks ago, Hofmeister decided to bring it to the government’s attention. “I’ve been trying to connect engineers with decision-makers at the Coast Guard and in the interior department,” he said.
Pozzi and his business partner Jon King have also tried to contact officials, with no luck. “I called the President of BP, got his secretary and then got a call from a lady inside the building we were standing outside of. We never really heard back from her. Nick also knew some people and got one of the men in charge of the spill. He threatened to sue Nick for not going through channels,” King said.
But even if BP and the government both approve the technique, it will take a while before it can be implemented. “A lot of these supertankers are sitting on the ocean full of oil. How do you get them empty? It may take some time to organize,” Hofmeister explained. And, of course, organizers will have to make sure that the supertankers don’t crash into each other. All the more reason to get started now.
BP would be wise to listen to Pozzi, who has 40 years of experience in the oil and gas industry. “It’s what you can’t see that’s going to hurt you for years to come. What you see now is just the tip of the iceberg,” he said.
Hofmeister, however, has confidence in the oil spill cleanup effort. “There are 13,000 people organized and engaged at cleaning up this spill. It’s kind of remarkable to put that kind of task force together in this kind of time frame,” he said. “I think there are very smart people managing this process.”
Speaking of that process, BP’s latest video as been released, and it shows the failed attempt to lower the cofferdam over the gushing well. Remember, this thing is 98 tons and 40 feet tall. Puts that spewing pipe in perspective.
Dude you dont think big business is in bed with Washington????
If you belive that then you ll belive anything . Of course they are!! its not even a damm secret. Jesus!!
I asked you to show me the experts ! I havent heard of any experts working with BP.
No Its not Joe 😕
Did you read about 1979? Ad BP is full of liars, but did you read 1979? Did you read about this and the magnitude written by people not in BP?
Name one deepwater oil well “expert” that hasn’t been to the well to check it out or asked to suggest options?
I would imagine BP, Hailburton and the other company have worked on this…? 😕 They ARE the experts…
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Name one dude, one. And the REASON why they aren’t there already. BP would looked like GODS if they fixed this… That is worth WAY more money and oil than to let it run for 9 months while the other well is drilled…
BP will go out of business if this thing runs for 9 months and they can’t continue to pump the well… Then nobody will clean anything up… I’d call that common sense reasoning as to why they are still on the project.
Name one expert that is qualified in this work that isn’t working on it…
Or are you saying BP is intentionally not letting the true experts work on the project…?
And the US gov is intentionally sidestepping the situation and not letting the experts get involved? Is that you Joe?
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Funny, none of your ideas have worked
funny not one has been tried or even looked at.Look at the junk shot for Christ’s sake. and that was by the experts , if i said it you would have laughed
but the point isnt whether MY ideas work or not . they’re just ideas.
the thing is it may spark something in someone else , who may say that wouldn’t work but this might , or it would only if XXX or if it was done with this or
Its just an idea ,
I don’t understand the hostility of bringing forth an idea, So you guys think they re stupid ideas ..So what? where s the harm?
and EVERYTHING Mam has said has been spot on… 😯 😕
lol..no.
I make things for a living and I am a firm believer in if you can draw it I can make it. But there are situations where common knowledge goes out the window.
I have a list.
In space.
Deep underwater.
Above the speed of sound.
Pressures above 10,000 psi.
I agree 100% but what about common sense?
These are situations where what works outside those conditions doesn’t work within those conditions. While we can speculate it’s just that, guessing in the wind based on absolutely no experience in those conditions that are unlike anything normal people encounter on a day to day basis…
I agree
It’s like a jet engine intake above the speed of sound, a big ol hole to suck air in right? No! Get it up above the speed of sound and it chokes itself… The solution is to plug the hole… Block it off almost completely and it will work WAY better. 😯
If you were to have no understanding of supersonic flight and attempt to solve the problem from your couch I seriously doubt anyone would come up with the correct solution. It took the experts (folks who eat more math for breakfast that I have ever seen, and I nearly have a BS in math) many months if not years and a lot of hard work and testing…
your looking at it wrong Look at the principles not the technology ,
(We dont have all the info to make the correct decisions )
but what we have is a wellhead spewing 170,000 psi at the source .
in principle, you need just over 170,000 to stop it .
does everyone agree with the principle or is that wrong?
this is not an impossible task by any means if you filled a tanker with concrete it would weigh in the millions of tons . one tanker.Im sorry I absolutely do not belive this is an impossible task
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One thing is certain we have an unconventional problem that cannot be solved by conventional means at the moment.
this is absolutely not a question of technology but of ingenuity , useing the means at hand to affect the outcome .
brain power will help solve this not technology
Two boats sit side by side in a river moving under the speed of sound, what will they do as time goes by…?
Two boats sit side by side in a river moving over the speed of sound, what will they do as time goes by…?
BP tried to lower your “box”, it was before you suggested it, do you know why it failed? Was it the weight? The pressure of the oil? It was something that really hasn’t been discussed and it will kill more life in the sea than the oil. 😉
no they lowered a box intended to siphon off oil , mine was weighted with the intent to seal it. why didn’t you see the difference ??
Everyone wants to be smarter than the experts,
listen, the only experts allowed to look at the problem close up in detail are BP’s experts , they had 40 days and they failed on a massive level . This ia a national emergency , there isn’t any more time to fuck around . time for some NEW experts .
but in this situation even the experts are in uncharted territory… It’s like we are trying to fix the hole in the Titanic as it is going underwater. There is NO way to do that type of work with the current equipment available or the current knowledge base…
Oh Jeeeeeeeze who says??BP?? Fuck BP! I want to hear from someone else outside the influence of BP . then Ill believe it
We could guess, waive our arms and talk about force fields to keep the water out while the guys work, but could you make it happen on site?
we can talk about going to the moon or mars or flight too.
Shit how about we just drop an open Stargate over the BOP, dial a gate with black hole and let the oil run into the black hole…
Should I write up the suggestion and send it to BP?
yeah its better than what theyre doing .
Cant you see that BP has a huuuge vital intrest in that well? Billions of billons if not trillions dollars ???
suppose the Junk shot worked ! Now what?? Do you think they are going to let BP just drill another well right next to it?? Hello ?? anyone home??
Really, do you? Do you really think they would let anyone drill there in the next five years????
If BP were to seal that well head and stop it , they would be sealing the door to the vault . after THEY JUST HIT THE MOTHER LOAD!!!
They would never have access to it again . Do you think thats what BP wants to do ? cut thier own throats??? Thats just bad fucking business !!LOL you guys got to be kidding me !!! there would be a lot of powerfull, and important pissed off people .
There is cash comeing out the ground there and BP isnt going to give that up .
THIER ONLY hope of holding that well is drilling a relief well .they have no intention of sealing it prematurely .. that would be the dumbest thing they could ever do .
Now if you got Exxon, Gulf, the army corps of engineers and some top guys from around the word to come and take a good look at it
and they came to the same conclusion , then I would except an indepenant source as credible .
But to ask me to belive these lying greedy criminal piece’s of shit who best interst is to tell me It cant be done because I said so . Im never going to listen to thier damage control “”experts”” on TV shoveling thier mission impossible bullshit on CNN.
No IM NEVER GOING TO BELIVE BP .EVER!
If can be confirmed by a reliable outside source then I will agree . but the only ones who can say anything are BP’s people!! how the hell can we confirm it? nobody else is allowed in
What do you think thier experts are going to tell you?? The truth?? clean the freaking wax out your ears, open your eyes , the truth is its all about the fucking money.
and who gets it.
Hold Over, read about the 1979 spill… It will tell you a lot about today’s spill… 😉
Funny, none of your ideas have worked and EVERYTHING Mam has said has been spot on… 😯 😕
I make things for a living and I am a firm believer in if you can draw it I can make it. But there are situations where common knowledge goes out the window.
I have a list.
In space.
Deep underwater.
Above the speed of sound.
Pressures above 10,000 psi.
These are situations where what works outside those conditions doesn’t work within those conditions. While we can speculate it’s just that, guessing in the wind based on absolutely no experience in those conditions that are unlike anything normal people encounter on a day to day basis…
It’s like a jet engine intake above the speed of sound, a big ol hole to suck air in right? No! Get it up above the speed of sound and it chokes itself… The solution is to plug the hole… Block it off almost completely and it will work WAY better. 😯
If you were to have no understanding of supersonic flight and attempt to solve the problem from your couch I seriously doubt anyone would come up with the correct solution. It took the experts (folks who eat more math for breakfast that I have ever seen, and I nearly have a BS in math) many months if not years and a lot of hard work and testing…
Two boats sit side by side in a river moving under the speed of sound, what will they do as time goes by…?
Two boats sit side by side in a river moving over the speed of sound, what will they do as time goes by…?
BP tried to lower your “box”, it was before you suggested it, do you know why it failed? Was it the weight? The pressure of the oil? It was something that really hasn’t been discussed and it will kill more life in the sea than the oil. 😉
Everyone wants to be smarter than the experts, but in this situation even the experts are in uncharted territory… It’s like we are trying to fix the hole in the Titanic as it is going underwater. There is NO way to do that type of work with the current equipment available or the current knowledge base… We could guess, waive our arms and talk about force fields to keep the water out while the guys work, but could you make it happen on site?
Shit how about we just drop an open Stargate over the BOP, dial a gate with black hole and let the oil run into the black hole…
Should I write up the suggestion and send it to BP?
Greed pushed BP to poke a hole into the earths crust that they KNEW could not be plugged if anything went wrong AND they still injected water into the BOP against the advice of the people who built ad installed the BOP.
I see this as nothing but absolute criminal negligence or an act of sabotage against the economy of the Gulf coast (and thus the USA).
This should have never happened and it’s like BP made it happen.
Wouldn’t you take extra care if you knew you were doping something very, very dangerous? BP acted like it was under 6″ of water and had about 2lbs of pressure behind it…
Let them fix it and take them the FUCK away from them before they fuck it up again… 😯 😯 😯
You watch our deballed oil rich government hack will let BP go right ahead and suck away after this…
Funny, why am I paying $3.50 a gallon when the largest oilfield on record is still virgin under our feet? I was told it was running out? And watched the oil companies post 60 billion quarterly profits, for three fucking years… And they cheapout on the deepest underwater well known to man..
Absolutely criminal… 👿
no Mam Im not looking for an argument , I just absolutely 100% disagree with a lot of what your saying .
I would like to keep a friendly relationship because besides our disagreement I think your a good guy .
and Im just going to drop this before this gets out of hand .
I see it one way you see it another . thats how wars start! 😉
no big deal man,
there’s no way their giving up cash cow and walk away voluntarily.
I still like to have some second opinions from the top guys in the field not employed by BP .
well at least the oceans wont rust !
There is no “BP way” nor is there a Shell way or an Exxon way… There is
no way at all yet… IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE so there is not an
answer yet…
So your saying there is no way because its never been done before ?
and what ever way it is stopped, is the only way it can be stopped .??
That’s ridiculous. might as well call them God .
To say that the people at BP are the only ones who can do it is just ignorant of the rest of the world..
I dont buy it for a minute.
Now you are just looking for an argument…. You are either really bored
or really high on medication…. Either way, you are very very confused
as to what is actually going on and you have learned nothing from what
you have seen or read… A child could understand that this is not
something that a laymen can solve just by brain storming and spewing
random ideas off the top of their head… This is almost as hard as trying
to rid the world of crime… Why hasn’t that been done yet…? Are you
telling me that it can not be done? It can be done, the cops just don’t
want to do it… <—– Sounds pretty ignorant doesn’t it….?
Where did I say that there is “no way”….?????? You evidentially added
some words to what you read…
WTF.. Where did I say that BP is the only ones that can do it?.. Yes, the
way it is stopped will be the only way it can be stopped no matter who
actually gets it done… It will most likely get plugged the same way all
other blow outs have been plugged in the past… The relief wells are the
last hope for this well to get plugged and that might not work either… If
you can not understand that then I don’t know how else to explain it… I
could fill you full of BS about this whole situation and there is no way you
would know any better… You have no idea what you are talking about
and zero understanding of what is going on nor what you have read….
Asking questions is one thing but half azz reading something and then
making statements with zero facts to back them up is just insane….
there’s no way their giving up cash cow and walk away voluntarily.
I still like to have some second opinions from the top guys in the field not employed by BP .
well at least the oceans wont rust !
There is no “BP way” nor is there a Shell way or an Exxon way… There is
no way at all yet… IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE so there is not an
answer yet…
So your saying there is no way because its never been done before ?
and what ever way it is stopped, is the only way it can be stopped .??
That’s ridiculous. might as well call them God .
To say that the people at BP are the only ones who can do it is just ignorant of the rest of the world..
I dont buy it for a minute.
Hey, thanks a lot for answering my questions. Yes it seems impossible that they could hit that channel.
When I write about recapturing that oil, I mean the oil that has escaped into the sea, what is called “the plumes” and what is on the surface.
If they can in fact scrub the oil from the salt water that they pump out of the ground, can they in fact economicaly reclaim the oil that is floating around in the gulf now, meaning the oil slick that has escaped.
I apologise for my ignorance, most of the information I have is from the Spencer Tracy and Clark Gable movie that I watched as a kid.
Roachcreek
No need for apology. Those are valid questions….
I had the same conversation about the oil on the surface and the
“Impending Plume” yesterday. Skimming oil off of the surface is one hell of
a difficult operation… There is a lot more water than oil that will get
picked up… All of that has to be stored somewhere so that it can be
separated. Although the centrifuges are a great idea, they can not
separate the oil from the water as fast as it is being sucked up…. The
skimming operation mechanically puts the oil and water into an emulsion
(mixes it together) and makes it even harder to separate…. When I was
a Chemical inspector working for Intertek Testing services in the Exxon
Baytown plant, I discharged several barges full of oil and water that
came from Alaska after the Valdez spill. There was very little oil in the
barges but we did pump it into an onshore tank for processing so the
answer to the reclamation of the oil is yes it can be reclaimed… It kinda
has to be processed because there is no other way to get rid of it.. Ya
can’t just dump it in a land fill and it is questionable about where you can
dump the water that may still be partially contaminated….
The Plume is a completely different animal…. There is no way to reclaim
that oil until it falls out of suspension and floats back to the surface… In
my opinion, BP should not have ever squirted the first drop of
dispersant.. All the dispersant does is hide the oil under the surface…
Dispersants do not make oil disappear, it only makes it spread out and mix
with water… Think about putting a 50/50 mixture of oil and water in a
glass… Then add a dispersant…. When mixed, it may make it look like
there is less oil in the glass but we know the oil did not disappear…. Now
try to separate the oil from the water.. Before adding the dispersant, you
could have sucked the oil off the top of the water. Once it is mixed, you
have to process the whole volume in the glass… The only way to clean
the plumes is to drain the Gulf or process all of the water in the Gulf….
BP is now denying that there are plumes of oil floating around…. Just
more of BP’s BS…… I guess they figure that if you can’t see it, it does
not exist….
Mamcrackin,
Hey, thanks a lot for answering my questions. Yes it seems impossible that they could hit that channel.
When I write about recapturing that oil, I mean the oil that has escaped into the sea, what is called “the plumes” and what is on the surface.
If they can in fact scrub the oil from the salt water that they pump out of the ground, can they in fact economicaly reclaim the oil that is floating around in the gulf now, meaning the oil slick that has escaped.
I apologise for my ignorance, most of the information I have is from the Spencer Tracy and Clark Gable movie that I watched as a kid.
Roachcreek
It amazes me, that they can drill a relief well at all. One mile underwater, they are trying to hit that well channel under ground that they have already drilled, is that correct?
That is like standing on your head and trying to hit a quarter thrown in the air at a quarter mile in the dark with a snub nosed 38.
Or do I have this wrong? Or is the theory like trying to drill a hole in a sore smashed thumb nail to relieve the pressure? They do not have to hit the channel, just hit the oil field and pump enough out to relieve the pressure?
I have heard that oil companies pump salt water into fields to force the crude to the surface are they trying to relieve that pressure?
Also, can BP reclaim the oil that is coming out at a later date?
Roachcreek
Yes, they are going to drill the relief well right into the well that has
already been drilled… Pretty amazing right?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/31388177/BP-Relief-Well-Diagram-14-MAY-2010
These formations are so massive that you can not simply pump some out
to reduce the pressure…. You have seen how long this one has been
blowing and the pressure has not been reduced as of yet… There is no
telling how big this formation is or what is feeding it… It is sort of like
trying to figure out how long a volcano will flow before the internal
pressure is reduced… These forces are well beyond our
comprehension… Hopefully someone out there has the tools and
intelligence to comprehend what it going on. One good thing is that, this
will not be the first relief wells ever drilled to seal up a well that has
blown out like this one…..
Yes, oil companies will pump salt water into a formation to extract the
rest of the oil once a formation is almost depleted… It fills the formation
with water and the oil will float on top so that the production equipment
down hole can suck it out…. Sometimes it is a mixture of salt water and
oil which goes to a scrubber/separator on the surface to extract the oil
and the salt water is disposed of….
I don’t understand what you mean by “reclaim the oil at a later date”.
Once the well is under control, they will pump in cement plugs to seal the
well and repair and or replace all of the equipment that should have been
repaired or replaced a long time ago…. BP will be able to bring in a
production rig after that and drill through the cement plugs to run
production equipment down hole to start extracting oil and gas….
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The well will not be permanently plugged and NO, no one has said that it
ever would be. So no, BP will not have to walk away from the well after it
is plugged.. They will most likely change all of the well head equipment
and then move a production rig into position and start producing oil and
gas and YES making million, billions, or even trillions of dollars….
I listened to 3 experts last night that all agreed that the relief wells are
the best hope for plugging the well…. They had no better ideas… I heard
the head of the Shell oil drilling department say the same thing.. Even Bill
Nye the science guy agrees…. So you can calm your fears, there are
experts looking at the problem.
As far as BP’s estimates of how much oil is spilling, it really makes no
difference how much oil has been or is
being pumped into the Gulf…. It is there and will be impossible to
cleanup…. Good luck with your opinion but I think you will find that you
will forget how wrong you are before the oil gets cleaned up… Ain’t
gonna happen…. And yes BP is full of crap… So is Obama and the rest of
the government… So what’s new….? Call some friends, make up some
cardboard signs and stand in front of the White House and protest…. Let
your voice be heard….. I will get the same results shooting targets here
at home… Every other oil company has plugged every other blow out
without your help or opinion and I am thinking that BP will do the same.
I am not trying to solve the problem, nor prove you wrong, I am just
trying to educate you about what is going on so that you don’t sound
ignorant… I am failing miserably….