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P12 Bullpup Review coming soon

There has been much talk of a Bullpup some say an EDgun clone from China yet no one has actually handled one or
in fact seen one other than a few photo-shopped factory images on the interweb..

Until now that is..

I have just taken delivery of the two very first production prototypes for testing and review purposes, one in .177 and one in .22 and for the curious minds out there Im going to completely tare these down and compare them to their European counterparts for you all and answer every question you and the manufacturer want answered..
At this stage this rifle is not available but to the public but once the manufacturer gets the required feedback on their new product and make any modifications needed they will hit production and be distributed to their representatives around the globe. You cant buy these directly from the factory unless you are a representative as they don’t deal directly with the public and they have a minimum purchase number of 100 units. Please don’t ask me what these will retail for as it will depend entirely on your location and local distributors costs and mark ups. However I can tell you it will be cheaper (much cheaper) than any other bullpup currently available on today’s market.

Will this new low priced Bullpup compete with the European bullpup market needing very few mods right out of the box?
….or will it always be an entry level rough around the edge rifle with the quality resembling a the QB series of rifle etc that the tinkerers on a budget among us will flock to and replace every part on the rifle until it no longer resembles its original form and end up with something they can never recover their cost on when they eventually get pissed off with it and sell to buy the European Gun they wished they had bough in the first place..

Here is the Factory info on this pup before I get into this..
They are made by the Snow Peak Airgun factory in Shaoxing China who are well know for making cheap springer’s, some owners have remarked that they have been of reasonable quality but I have never owned or inspected one so I will not comment.

Snow peak Airgun factory was established in 1976 and at present, the company has 10 series with more than 30 specifications of airgun products, and owns several patents. The company also cooperates with internationally well-known airgun brands, and is rich in mature OEM experiences with a strong design and R&D team, they boast a first-class quality control system and testing equipments.
PCP Rifles are a new venture for Snow peak and they are gearing up to produce two PCP rifles, the M10 which looks to be a Air Arms S400 clone and this one the P12 bullpup which will be the subject of this independent review.

This is the manufacturers specs for the P12 bullpup they have released on their website.

MODEL P12 Bullpup
Magazine capacity: Single shot
Manual safety
Available in .177 (4.5 mm), .22 (5.5 mm) calibres.
Air tube volume: 317cc
Fill pressure: 20mPA, 200 Bar, 2900Psi
Precision rifled steel barrel for accuracy.
Scope mount rail & shock absorber scope stop.
Stock: European hard wood
Over all length: 710mm (28”)
Weight 3.1kg (6.8lbs)
Max velocity: 4.5mm (.177cal) 1000fps
5.5mm (.22cal) 1000fps

Please note this will be an evolving thread with an extensive unbiased review that tests every component of these PSP’s professionally and thoroughly.
I will first test and provide data on the rifles exactly as they arrived from the factory floor and then (should I need to) I will provide a list of all defects, point out any “quirks” and improvements needed to bring them up to an international standard.

Once all testing and data collection is done going onto a section of “extensive modification and tuning” in an attempt to get this Bullpup to be “all it can be”
I have a stock of new .177 and .22 L/W and BSA match barrels should the stock barrels be less than perfect.

Where is the .25cal model I also hear you all ask? I also have two new .25cal match grade barrels, one BSA and the other Lothar Walther that will I test on this platform for all those modders out there with the burning desire for more energy..

I know there will be plenty of questions rattling around out there already but please allow me the time to finish this first section before slamming me with them as I will do my best to leave all questions unanswered in the initial review.. I will be open to all questions and suggestions once I complete this initial review and start on the field testing stage.

Stay tuned.. first up.. The un-boxing… second…the strip down and comparisons, is it actually a clone?

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quote dman1114:

quote Wanta edgun:

Imagin getting one of these from Michael M (fltying dragon I think) tuned for $500-600 bucks. If they can make a decent regulator(big friking if) then it might be worth it for the air tube and regulator, for anyone making the own pcp bp.

Everything is speculation till we get a good unbiased report on these…

That’s why I brought up mikes name. He turns those crap china guns into great shooters and the price is still great. Lots of entry level pcp guys started with them. If nothing else, it would make great parts for my next project. That is’ if I ever get that mill and lathe. Plenty of people out there have the time and skill to make something great but not the cash to lay Dow for a edgun. I that wasn’t true, I’m not sure the Air Force or mrods would be so popular. Not that either of those are that bad bad to start with.

quote Wanta edgun:

Imagin getting one of these from Michael M (fltying dragon I think) tuned for $500-600 bucks. If they can make a decent regulator(big friking if) then it might be worth it for the air tube and regulator, for anyone making the own pcp bp.

Everything is speculation till we get a good unbiased report on these…

Ya, price is right but we’ll see about value. Im betting it will be ok but no Edgun in application, if it just don’t have functional problems, that might be a success for a new start up model and i like the look if the stock shape on it.

eyes and ears wide open as soon as I saw 75% less wow!

Keyword “IMMEDIATE

quote SECoda:

I look forward to your immediate overall impression as you unbox them.

I look forward to your immediate overall impression as you unbox them. 😀

Imagin getting one of these from Michael M (fltying dragon I think) tuned for $500-600 bucks. If they can make a decent regulator(big friking if) then it might be worth it for the air tube and regulator, for anyone making the own pcp bp.

Damn that looks hot, thanks for the info Phil. Although I’ll probably wait until next year for the MS 😛 I am all ears on your findings.

This is gonna be great!!!!

They don’t exist yet, but they are working on them.

I have already placed the order, and spoke to them twice in the past week.

The date for release was pushed back twice already, but I was promised the first 100 by march.

As soon as I get them in, they will be available at much better prices than other bullpups, like 75% better price.

I have received some other samples that they make, and as soon as the power level is increased, they will be listed as well. They are limited to low power for export, but come supplied with “replacement” parts, that really wake em up.

(Mod Edit…removed unethical dealer information)

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