The eagle has landed!

Very interesting. Thanks! Which is your pick? I never shoot these guns offhand so weight is actually a plus up to a point for me.

Below are pics of the sights on Veles and Oclot. Veles sights are pretty crude and only adjustable for windage via set screw.

Veles was $1050 plus shipping. Ocelot was $926 plus shipping (TGAG).

Here are pics of the weigh in with red dots attached. Scale is reading pounds and ounces.

Yeah SC don’t sell it. My buddy has one they are lasers. Too bad we can’t get cricket barrels for the Taipan. They shoot like lasers. Both the .22 and 25 i had were stupid accurate.

Shoot the review you have linked too is on the Mutant Standard not the baby Mutant which came along later. The first 10 guns to enter this country via Dman were fitted with CZ barrels this is verified! Keyser sold that gun because he believed it was replaced by the Shorty.

Keyser has a perfectly fine barrel:

http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=32429

BTW, guys, do you know anything if LW outsources the production to some different countries?

No, my most respected and most valued of kin and cousin alike :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: Sir Pippo of most majestic of orders. What our most regarded of friends Sir. Soze of the Desert and City alike is claiming-is not about the coming of the Lelya to town, not of her final delayed and delayed and delayed again arrival but of more serious and the most valid of issues with our beloved Mutant Shorty. And when I say beloved I mean nothing less. My dearest of cousins from the Phylum of :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: Hoot: the most majestic and the most magnifico of family lines in the simple one celled plant world: please inquire below my most gifted of cousins that you might better understand Sir Keyer Soze’s outrage.

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his is my the Barrel of my mutant short just (2) months old might I add Sir Pippo my most respected cousin of cousins. This picture is brought to you compliments of :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: Sir. Ernest of the Pup the tuner I sent it to-to finally nail down what the problem was.

Our dearest and most descent of friends Sir Soze the maker of dead pigeon and dead starling piles alike-lies to you not! LIES TO YOU NOT! as Yoda of the Star might exclaim. Sir Keyser Soze has also had issues with the barrel and accuracy on his Beloved $1450.00 top end Bull Pup a bull pup called the Baby Mutant that he bought believing would shot with the accuracy of Artemis’s Bow. However the Keyser found a barrel in his beloved Baby Mutant that NOT even Crosman would use in their crappy ass air rifles. Besides this my greatest of cousins of the uncle of :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: Hoot: many others have had real issues with their Baby Mutants not being accurate and shooting erratically. So this is not so much about the Edgun. However it is more about not getting what you are told you are paying for. If you had went to many of the dealers websites last week you would have learned that our Baby Mutants were adorn with CZ barrels but this LIE was further then the truth then our greatest of Stars is to the now defunct planet of Pluto. Where as-as stated previously ED of Edgun has not given you less or other then what he has stated, he has only given you more and as I hear never skimps on this. However he may lie a bit about the time line, the time frame, the exact arrival date but you are getting everything he tells you-you are getting however this might take a few years! 😀

Where as you have not a clue what you are getting from the company known as WWAG which might I add is the sole importer of the baby mutant. So is the barrel CZ? or made in Germany? or is it made in Korea? does it come with a choked or with an unchoked barrel. It was advertised as to have a CZ barrel and I asked Steve to please take down this false advertisement from his website. He the IMPORTER is clueless to what barrel is in the gun he imports when the barrel on a 1400 plus gun should have a crosman like pissa crap in it?

I hope I cleared things up for my most majestic and most humble of cousins :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: Sir Pippo of the most highest order of plant life in the single celled plant world. As our friend Sir Keyser Soze is an elusive character this does not make him a liar and a cheat though no one really knows who Keyser Soze is my famous cousin.

So please forgive me on these matters.

Pip, with all due respect you don’t know what you’re talking about regarding the Taipan short. When a gun patterns like a shotgun I don’t care if it gets 100 shots per fill. . The lands and grooves are not like a LW and there is no choke. The OD is also smaller on the barrels placed on the Shorty. Taipan used shims to fill the barrel bands. Very shoddy work. Say what you want about Ed but rather than put out garbage he waited for good barrels now that the EDguns are arriving you are using this opportunity to attack Ed and his company.

No manner what is posted here I will give the Lelya and R3 .30 a fair shot. I have manny thousands of rounds through my EDguns and they always perform. The only problem I have had with EDgun is lack of communication. It’s kinda like choosing a doctor. Would you like a doctor who is friendly but does’t know is job or an arrogant asshole doctor who is a master at his craft?

Would seeing ‘Proudly made in PRC’ make you feel better?