The Haley .457 is here.

the ranger can be loaded to 4500 psi shooting on low – medium and high power it will shoot at 4500 psi , it can shoot a 250 g bullet with 36inch barrel 4500 psi over 1200 fps on the medium power setting .

The ranger shoots a 540 g bullet 4500psi on high power close to 1000 fps

so you can see how it would compare to hand guns of 45 cal

airtube is 1 1/8 chromoly , can’t remeber the wall thickness, i will see if i have it wrote down some where

Riverside, if you actually ask Dan@xp you’d find out many things that you pull out of your ass to be nothing but speculation on your part.
The Cerakote on the action of his guns is the ceramic baked on type. He only uses the air dry on stocks because the 1 hour bake at 270 degrees would not be good for any wood and he’s not sure about his composite stocks, but considering the price of those, he’s not willing to try it.

He buys his barrel liners from a place in Kentucky called TJ’s. It’s no secret, he’ll give you the phone number if you want.

If you talked with him, you’d find his background is in hydraulics and pneumatics, as a system design engineer. That’s part of the reason his guns are doing things that others aren’t. It’s also why he builds his guns out of expensive, strong materials. I talked with him about the trigger design. It boils down to a pretty good understanding of materials, and keeping things simple. His prototype Ranger has been shot hundreds, maybe thousands of times, by his people, MrHollowpoint and now by Hunters Supply and inspections of the trigger and seers, show zero wear, as a matter of fact, the only indication of use is a slight polish on the surfaces.

The Ranger I shot is the one in the gray composite stock, pictured with the hog. Greg owns the rifle and he took that hog with a straight on head shot at 35 yards using 4000 psi and 385 grain hollowpoint. BTW, Greg’s and avid hunter and competes in national skeet shooting. He didn’t think a .45 handgun would have dropped that pig with the same shot, because the bullet hit it between the eyes where the skull slopes back and it would have bounced off. The Ranger dropped it where it stood, and he found the bullet back in the neck about 10″ of penetration.

Greg has more fun letting guys shoot the Ranger after shooting other air guns, because they always squeeze off the first shot before they’re ready with the light trigger pull. That’s includes me.

The trigger action is better than most high powered rifles I’ve shot.
Greg is planning on taking his gun to Arkansas gun show and letting people shoot it.

RJ,

I’m happy you’re satisfied and enjoying your new guns. That’s what it all about, going out and having fun shooting in the style you enjoy.

Roach:
the older JH guns are like the Marauder
some are real positive about them, others like me see them as pure entry level and others, mostly those who have never even touched one sneer

nature of the idiot net 🙄

Riverside,

Yes you have, and it seems like the experience with the JH is like the story of the three blind men who try to describe the elephant, all have different experiences, which for a limited issue gun, is a sorry situation.

The DAQ is simply not a safe gun IMHO, but that is from what I have read.

I hear no complaints about Barnes guns,, but for that kind of money there should not be any.

It gets back to that dog in the corner licking his nuts, I am just tired of the slurping and needed to throw a shoe.

I think someone here has a smiley of a guy beating a dead horse.

Good night.

Roachcreek

GRANDMA Jerry/Riverqueen those were not a fart’s ! hit the buzzer !

Roach…can you actually, heck can anyone actually state that I have not stated quite a few times now that the XP is a better gun than either the DAQ muchless Haleys?
nope, I just pointed out that the XP was not the where all, end all of Big Bore air guns as indicated by the rudimentry trigger

This started pages ago now when little Danny started in with his seamed pressure tube nonsense

all the way during this I was straight anbout the JH needing work, that mine was an early gun and that I paid roughly $600.00 for it
I know what is in my hands just as RJ knows whats in his hands just as 80 grit knows what he received yet we all basically are being told that we are wrong, apparently deluded and with the exception of Tof, all by folks who admit they have never owned muchless even held one
Thats really rather sad

wanna know sadder?
even though my only serious critique was on the trigger design there are a couple that could not even accept that
all or nothing I guess 🙄

like I stated it’s the old USA Marauder versus Chinese Marauder debate all over again 😆 😆 😆

I was not going to enter into this fray again.

But it seems you folks will not let this die.

I have seen dogs licking their nuts that can’t stop, you guys are acting the same way, and this goes for both sides of this fray.

We have idiots and educated people doing the same thing, and some of the posters actually do put facts forward.

I have a 45 Ranger on order as you guys know. From all this emotional piss on each others toes bullshit, I have gathered opinions that have helped me make a descision.

Now take in consideration, I have owned a few guns in my time, and I have worn out more guns than some of you have owned, used them up thru abuse and hard work.

And thru all this 20 pages of, what do you call this thread, educational, insulting, emotional bullshit comes to mind, at any rate all this time I have been watching the Yellow with a pocket full of money to buy a big bore.

I have seen the pictures, I have seen the good bad and the ugly of JH’s and I have seen the DAQ’s and the weird looking space age Barnes guns, lthat really are works of art.

Like sitting at a trial as a juror, I have to tell you folks, I won’t buy a Jack Haley rifle, and I will not buy a DAQ. And during this I have seen their products for sale, have the money to plot down and I will simply not do it.

Riverside, your pictiures of the JH trigger system, while similiar to the XP, are really not the same animal, the JH old system is crude, and WOK described them pretty well I think. They look terrible.

But your insistance on their relationship to the XP is like comparing a Model T pickup to a 2011 Ford F150, same same, but at the same time entirely different technology, and the more you argue the point, the more I am convinced that I want a XP.

And I say this inspite of all the sophmorish posts of Dan H and not wanting at all to ally myself with him.

If I had the choice between the trigger system on a modern JH and the XP, I will gladly take the XP. I have seen these modern triggers you bost of fail, and quite frankly, they are not as robust as the XP IMHO. But opinions are like assholes everyone has one, and you guys are acting like them.

Your friend who’s wife knocked the gun off the wall, was an idiot for storing it that way, and that pin system that Mcvey uses would have prevented that accident, as it will if the much maligned trigger system fails.

And if it does fail, I will do the same thing your doing with that JH you have, I will reengeneer it, the difference is that I will have better materials to start with.

Plastic man and Jerry have been the best witnesses in this mini trial by the way, the rest of this has been emotion based on some facts or perhaps just tryng to stir shit thru boredom.

So I am going to spend $1200.00 on a Xp, and it is a lot bette rmade than other $1200.00 rifles, which is what JH sell for by the way.

And like my firend RJ, I am tired of it.

Regards,

Roachcreek