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Wayne and DonG’s Big Adventure….

Waynejitsu had some work done by DonG on his Talon SS. He paid a lot of money for it and when he got his gun back it did not work. I took pity on him and offered to take a look at what was done.

So here we go.

When the gun arrived the first thing I noticed is the bolt and hammer were galling, Rubbing, against the frame. This created a lot of friction, in addition I noticed the bolt took a couple of pounds of pressure to slid on the barrel. All of this friction adds up is not good. It requires a lot more force to move these parts then necessary.

For example the bolt should move like glass on the barrel, not with significant friction. The body of the hammer should not contact the frame ever and should only ride on the delrin bushings.

The hammer is a total misguided mess. It is made of aluminum. The cuts are rough and inaccurate and to make it heavy enough the body was left thicker then it should be which causes friction. The stock hammer while not pretty is perfect for its job. It is heavy and thin and does not cause any problems. In this case the stock hammer should have remained.

The BOLT is an attempt of a knock off of bolts others have made in the past. A look at the workmanship shows some attempts at creating something nice but it has a few short falls. One thing is the hammer slap mod shows a lot of glue remnants and the Oring is coming out of the slot. The waist has 2 diameters which is a sign of careless workmanship. The orings are far to tight and require a significant amount of force to slide on the barrel. It should move smoothly with little force. There are many signs of wear and friction on the bolt and this is because aluminum “Galls” against aluminum and for this reason Airforce uses a Delrin bolt which does not gall or cause significant friction. The bolt is a mess and I reccomend a return to the stock Bolt as well as the stock hammer.

Now for the valve……WTF?

First thing I notice is there is no spanner holes or notches in the valve top under the top hat…curious. I take the valve off and this is what I found.

Now some might be getting all excited to see this thinking is is some kind of regulation device…WRONG….this is nothing more then a chamber which would hold the same PSI as the air in the tank. It would serve no purpose other then to decrease airflow to the valve. The threads are very rough and full of aluminum dust. The OD has a step in it and goes back to the quality of work. This is an ill conceived attempt at regualtion and goes to show how bad information really can make somebody have a bad day.

That’s all for now. Wayne my recommendation is to return to a stock hammer, stock delrin bolt and stock spring retainer bolt.

I will look further at it later.

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I’m not understanding this lack of action either. I’ve been in peoples’ faces over far less, even when it required a bit of a journey. It’s never been about the value either, it goes by the amount of piss-taking liberty involved.

And remember, it doesn’t have to be directly physical, much satisfaction can be had from cars and windows etc. And, gee, his car shop. Payback should be a financial bitch.

someone needs to go to his shop as a customer and then demand their shit back and when he calls police to have you removed he will be removed for theft
i bet a plane ticket would be worth getting your gun back or at least the cash he stole from you
i know if it were me getting fucked id be at his door beating it down til i got my money or gun back
with all that has been stolen its gotta be grand larceny by now

why has no one contacted the proper authorities??????

if you sent a postal money order it is mail fraud, pay pal.. I don’t know much about them but I’m sure they have something especially if you payed the pay pal with your card, called the cops, is this not theft?
I believe the list goes on and on as to what you guys that got screwed can do

quote Revwarnut:

DonG will probably soon be selling used cars.

I just hope the owners get a cut in it…. 😯 😆 😆

A gnat’s ass we will… emailed the Dong awhile back asking if he could find it in his heart to send my gun back in whatever condition it may be, no questions asked. Haven’t heard a thing. That man is long gonneeee… So, Don if your out there…. FUCK YOU!!!

I’m sorry I trusted you. Bitch cockfucker assfuckfuckfuck

Okay, I feel better now that I’ve gotten that off my chest.

DonG will probably soon be selling used cars.

I just hope the owners get a cut in it…. 😯 😆 😆

quote waynejitsu:

Hi guys,
I have been “out” for a few days/
Anyhow, thanks for your help Adam and thank sawtime for the valve.
Not working, I will wait on it

You guy’s are the BEST!!!
I never had anyone step in to help out, I was always doing the helping. It is a strange feeling to be on the opposite side…

Thanks again guys!!!

Pm me your address, I have an extra factory valve ill send you to get you up and going.
What ever happened to the crack head dong?

Hi guys,
I have been “out” for a few days/
Anyhow, thanks for your help Adam and thank sawtime for the valve.
Not working, I will wait on it

You guy’s are the BEST!!!
I never had anyone step in to help out, I was always doing the helping. It is a strange feeling to be on the opposite side…

Thanks again guys!!!

wayne-
when I get my new valve from brad, i’ll have a talon valve for ya.
If you can wait, nothing worse than a fellow TAG man with a broken Dong valve.

SAW

A UPDATE on Waynes Gun.

Wayne your gun is working fine.

Your valve is not. It has a leak like no other and is CRAP. It has drained 2x and that has drained my CF tank enough…LOL

You need a new valve. Other then that you should be set.

I will take out the old valve for you and you can order a new one from AF. Just screw it in and you should be set.

Hahahahaha-
I once made a untensil out of a french loaf 😛 😛 😛 😛
back in the day, flipping pizza’s 8) 8) 8)
What ever it took to get the job done.

SAW

well……..

way back in the day I have made an utensil or two so to speak out of a t/p role, I soon found that carrots, apples and such work much better when you in a pinch, no hammers were ever injured in making of these types of utensils

quote get the blue jay:

naw, even if your giving it away to someone it’s still crap, worthless and should be imbarssing, not to mention the person that is getting it most likely doesn’t have the means necessary to make anything out of it, and I have made some beautiful as well as perfect things with a drill press and a file, you just have to have the skills, drive and that annoying at times bug for perfection, it can be done, it just takes time and patents 😉

Okay maybe he used a roll of toilet paper and a hammer?

(Don’t tell me you’ve made things using that method as well.

😯 )

Found it.

So if anyone else needs one let me know in the CONUS.
PM me and I’ll send it via USPS for free. You must be a TAG member in good standing and/or fucked up by don*g.

naw, even if your giving it away to someone it’s still crap, worthless and should be imbarssing, not to mention the person that is getting it most likely doesn’t have the means necessary to make anything out of it, and I have made some beautiful as well as perfect things with a drill press and a file, you just have to have the skills, drive and that annoying at times bug for perfection, it can be done, it just takes time and patents 😉

quote get the blue jay:

What the hell???????

how could someone charge or even give away work like that, I just don’t get it and there should be laws with mandatory jail time for shit like that!

Giving it away isn’t that bad, you could always use the raw materials that’s on there to make something else out of it? 🙄

I do feel sorry for that kind of work, Even I could do that better on a bad day, with 2 broken legs a sprained finger and a concussion. While being drunk. (ahem)

Maybe he did it with a drill press and a file? 🙂

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