XP airguns ranger 45 caliber 36inch barrel MONSTER !
I now have my new xp airguns ranger 45 caliber airgun , and i must say this is a MONSTER shooting gun . 😆 😆 😆 😆
So far i have tested out 454 round ball ,and 250 grain laser cast bullets .
during brake in so far the round ball is working better , dead on accurate shooting 3000 psi 1070 fps on low power , mid power 3800 psi 1150 fps working down 9 shots to 877 .
The laser cast 250 grain stuff , on mid power 987fps working down 9 shots to 720 ,
these numbers should improve by around 50 fps after break in according to Dan Mcvey .
this gun gets a lot of shots for a big bore , and with the long barrel the power stays up even at low pressures . 😉
some pics shooting this weekend.
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Serious question , do the bullets work that much better tahn the round balls? A 45 caliber hole is a nice hole even if it does not expand. If they are accurate, reasonably priced why mess with the cast bullets?
Does the larger cast bullet work that much better on say elk sized game?
Many deer and elk were killed with round ball.
Conical designs are VASTLY superior to roundball.
Thing is, at our velocities you will not see any expansion with the roundball unless you maybe hit some heavy bone, then it is probably bnot going to penetrate very well. Roundball shot from an airgun does not leave a .45caliber hole….it slips thru flesh. The exit wound left by a roundball on a coyote left an exit hole that was all of about 25caliber….slipped on thru. A slightly heavier conical design that has a sharp shoulder/top band (the EPP/UG) will cut a caliber sized hole. No real meplat to speak of though, so it won’t spray flesh out of the way like a large meplat at a decent speed would.
The book in the picture I posted was also shot with a 180grain roundnose. Not so impressive compared to the big meplat Lee slug. The nose of the boolit is what does the damage.
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Serious question , do the bullets work that much better tahn the round balls? A 45 caliber hole is a nice hole even if it does not expand. If they are accurate, reasonably priced why mess with the cast bullets?
Does the larger cast bullet work that much better on say elk sized game?
Many deer and elk were killed with round ball.
I don’t mean to be personal, and of course I have never met you, but I think you just want to say that Dan has some nice big balls. 😆
Dan, Check out Rotosmetals if you have not already. They are in SF and if you order 99.00 worth of lead, they will ship for free. Lead is $2.29 a lb, and they have several different alloys to choose from, they are a big alloy business, with terrific service. They will come in handy when your only getting 17 bullets per lb.
And they ship via USPS so it gives the postman a hernia to boot.
Regards,
Roachreek
i just shot 2 shot’s of the new rounball they stacked perfect ! 😆 😆 😆 YES !!!!!!!! 😆 😆
Tof,
I don’t mean to be personal, and of course I have never met you, but I think you just want to say that Dan has some nice big balls. 😆
Dan, Check out Rotosmetals if you have not already. They are in SF and if you order 99.00 worth of lead, they will ship for free. Lead is $2.29 a lb, and they have several different alloys to choose from, they are a big alloy business, with terrific service. They will come in handy when your only getting 17 bullets per lb.
And they ship via USPS so it gives the postman a hernia to boot.
Regards,
Roachreek
did i say …..casting is fun ! 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
casting is fun ! 😆
T …… 😆 those were fun to cast , i have shot over 2 1/2 boxes of 100= 454 speer round ball through the gun , and they did very well for plinking hitting beer cans laying on there side with 1 end pointed at me out to -70-75 yards i figure , that is why i ordered this mold , i figured it was a good way to start trying this casting stuff out .
i just followed what all you guys said to do , i was surprised how well those balls turned out so smooth and round when i compare them to the speer ones i have been shooting , heck i might just melt the speer ones i have left and re-cast those also , these ones i just casted are way more consistant in roundness – when i used the caliper on both the speer ,and the ones i just casted .
man i am just very glad now that i bought this casting stuff , 100 speer round balls cost me atleast 12 bucks for 100 , compared to 2.50 – bucks for the the cost for 100 in lead i just bought on a good deal .
Butcher …. that casull really caught my eye , i had seen you post about them before so when i was looking for a 340 grain , and compared them to the 46-425b that Charlie is using ,they are very similar in design . I can’t wait to get these bullet molds now , and cast some more bullets up, one thing i need to try on my laser cast bullets that i bought is to remove the lube they used and see if that improves the accuracy a bit on those , I have a funny feeling it will since the lube did not work good at all in Charlies gun .
next week i will have the other lee mold the 255 grain one , so i can cast some of those test them while the pot is hot , and if they shoot good ,cast a bunch of those up ! 😆 right then … cross my fingers 😉
so it is a 3 bullet mold , i like how fast that 340 shot , so i figure the casull is very close in design to the 425 ..so cross my fingers that 1 works good 2 , just thought i would try and extra bonus 1 😆
Charlie what handles did you get for your accurate mold ?
also i am going to order a Lee 2 cavity 452 – 255 grain flat nose product # 775 664 from midway , that 1 looks like a mini version of the other 2
Can’t wait to see how accurate that Casull 45-340B is….a .34 meplat is pretty good. The Lee design, too. Here is the Lee 260grain SWC….I didn’t have many of these so I can’t recall whether or not they were accurate (that was almost 4 years ago). I like what the .35 meplat did when it hit stuff, though. Like this 600 page book we found out at the shooting spot.
Ahhhhh DAN, I’M CLAIMING “BULLSHIT” ON THOSE RB’S MAN. U did not cast those, you bought a bunch of stainless steel ball bearings and posed them as freshly casted RB’s…….
LOL…LOL…..LOL
Those look damned good bro. Good for you. Fun aint it.
The one thing though if i may is, don’t cast so much before you test out a batch in your gun. Of course you can always remelt them but if they don’t shoot well but its a time thing i’m referring too.
Good Job Dan.
Either RCBS handles or Lee handles will work.
Charlie
Thanks Charlie , hey man i got some round ball casted up check this out ! 😆 😆 😆 i like their shape a lot better than the speer round balls that have small bash marks all over them , i casted over 400 tonight , that mold worked great after i got it broke in . This is the first time i have ever casted bullets/roundball , and i must say it was a lot of fun , and i will cast all my bullets / roundball from here on out , i figure with what i had left in the pot , that makes atleast 500 454 rounball out of a 10lbs bar of lead ! 12.50 it cost me shipped out of the 80lbs that i bought so far , i think i will buy more of this lead .
Charlie i am going to do another casting session tomorrow night , i am going to send you some of these to try out , i think you will like them for plinking , the mold is just 20 bucks , and 10lbs = around 500 454 rounball for some cheaper shooting , thanks for all your help man .
Dan,
Either RCBS handles or Lee handles will work.
Charlie
WOW ! thanks a bunch Marvin , this will help me out , to figure out what at to shoot in this gun , my goal is to get several good shooting bullets for low,med,and high power ,
thanks again Marvin
Dan
Dan bullets are in the mail . They are all sprayed with dry lube or molly. If you do not want the lube spray them with break kleen . They are all labeled as well . They are 12-15 bhn lead . So I recomend that you run a brush through your barrel and give it a good cleaning first . That should remove any soft lead that might be in the grooves that could get transfered to the bullets . Marvin
Those dials don’t have much to do with temperture. I would put it all the way until you get a full melt, then back off to 80%.
Your going to have fun making those.
Roachcreek
Charlie , thanks for the tip , do those accurate molds come with handles ? and if not what kind do you get ?
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Serious question , do the bullets work that much better tahn the round balls? A 45 caliber hole is a nice hole even if it does not expand. If they are accurate, reasonably priced why mess with the cast bullets?
Does the larger cast bullet work that much better on say elk sized game?
Many deer and elk were killed with round ball.
Conical designs are VASTLY superior to roundball.
Thing is, at our velocities you will not see any expansion with the roundball unless you maybe hit some heavy bone, then it is probably bnot going to penetrate very well. Roundball shot from an airgun does not leave a .45caliber hole….it slips thru flesh. The exit wound left by a roundball on a coyote left an exit hole that was all of about 25caliber….slipped on thru. A slightly heavier conical design that has a sharp shoulder/top band (the EPP/UG) will cut a caliber sized hole. No real meplat to speak of though, so it won’t spray flesh out of the way like a large meplat at a decent speed would.
The book in the picture I posted was also shot with a 180grain roundnose. Not so impressive compared to the big meplat Lee slug. The nose of the boolit is what does the damage.
Butcher i have almost perfect 45 claliber holes in 3/4 inch plywood shot with the 45 ranger with 454 round ball , in-fact it will go through 3 sheets of 3/4 plywood on low power 3400 psi at 50 yards , yes the heavy bullets are in fact better for hunting but there is no deer on this earth that will survive a heart/lung shot from round ball , later when i get home i will post some pics up of a 3/4 inch plywood sheet with those holes stamped through it with round ball .